suspension lift question

[rusty75k5]

Thanks ryoken,
So I should look into gettin a 6" w/out rear springs, a 4" shackle flip, and some 2" rear springs. I guess I might as well get 56" if it ain't hard to mount, just drill a few new holes?

 

[beater_k20]

go with the DIY4X shackle flip, and put longer shackles on, maybe a 1" block for good measure. should be easy to get 6" that way.

 

[ryoken]

Thanks ryoken,
So I should look into gettin a 6" w/out rear springs, a 4" shackle flip, and some 2" rear springs. I guess I might as well get 56" if it ain't hard to mount, just drill a few new holes?

no prob..

sounds good... just be aware some like to get a tad more in the back to help any future sag, loads, etc. 1/2" to 1 1/2" more in back than in front is not uncommon... but you always have the zero-rate possibilty to get that other 1" if need be as beater pointed out...

the ORD flip is very proven but DIY4 is the hot new item. prolly for the muliple mountings, backing plates and he has the 2 different shackles setup for it.. and yeah, just a few new holes maybe.. plus since your mounting the hangar fresh, you can set up the optimum shackle angle...

 

[rusty75k5]

Damn, that **** isn't cheap man. A set of 2" springs was like 350 bucks from TC. Add in the shackles and stuff, thats a lot more than a total 6". Are there any cheaper 2" springs out there? Anywhere else I should be lookin or somethin?

*EDIT* Off road design has a kit that's specially for a shackle flip in the rear, seems like a good deal.
245 for the 6", 350-380 for 52-56" springs, probably go for 3" lift. DIY4x has the shackles for 155. That comes out a little better than I had seen anywhere else.

 

[ryoken]

yeah, it can rack up... going flip in the back runs ya more than just springs. but its worth it.... see your prob is your going 6... i'm only gonna go 4, so i can get away with just the flip for awhile. and maybe pick up fresh springs down the road.... back springs are bucks..

it can easily run ya 1200 by the time ya throw in new shocks, brakelines and maybe lengthing shafts, etc..

 

[rusty75k5]

You guys are sure that I will get a better package with the shackle flip vs. the all out 6"? You know, durability, flex, all the good stuff. The price gap ain't huge, once it ships it'll probably come out the same, cuz I can just drive to Off Road designs. That stuff weighs so much they charge a ton for shippin.

I hope I don't destroy the stock axles too quick, but I'll be lookin for a donor 3/4 ton in the future. Man I wish I could start right now!

 

[ryoken]

the only aspect where all spring would be decent as opposed to flip and spring would be mud.. you'll flex vastly better with the flip.. and if you ran 6" 56's without a flip, you'd be wasting the time to move the stock hangar.. the easiest, cheapest would be 6" 52's, which will ride like arse...

stock 10 bolts won't last long if you don't baby it... 14bff are a dime a dozen for the back, its that front 60 thats gold.. i know i wouldn't wanna run 39.5's on balljoints for too long.... some here may disagree and have had good luck, i just think its a real stretch strengthwise...

 

[RGV72BLAZER]

agree with ryoken...or a stock spring with ORD shackle flip & their 6.0" HD shackle...that should net you 6"...& then just add a zero rate if needed...damn i sound like an ORD spokesman ...as for those stock axles, they're gonna grenade with 39.5s...a friend of mine had 10 bolts with 39.5 boggers and blew the r&p right thru the diff cover & that's b/c it was open, no locker or slip. i'll sell you my d60 if you're interested...lol. yea those springs are pretty expensive. why not get on some of the websites and look for some 63" stock springs. i've found a few around here, one guy was gonna get 'em to me for $90 shipped. another local here in TX was gonna sell them for about $50. try pirate and some other sites. those things would flex crazy with a shackle flip and longer shackle. that's the setup i was going to run on mine to clear 42s, with some fender tapering.

 

[rusty75k5]

Yeah, I think I'm gonna look into some axles before I go for the lift. If it's hopeless, I'll just lift it up. I won't go 39's, maybe 36-37. I don't think I'll be doin crazy muddin, just slower technical stuff, but nothin too hard. I am thinkin a bit far ahead, we just got the dang thing runnin again. I'm gonna trim the fenders first, and try and get rid of as much rust as I can. Should I just sand the rust off of it? I don't want a show truck, just somethin I can clean up and hit with some paint.

Thanks again for your help guys, this is gonna be a sweet summer.

 

[ryoken]

36's will hold up on 10 bolts fine, unless your beating it... might try to find a pair of 3/4 diffs..

the more of the rust you can remove with a grinder the better.. after that if you have some left you can try one of the 24 million rust products available on what you couldn't get out.....

 

[rusty75k5]

O.K., I was checkin out the technical area which has the production numbers, horsepower, etc., and for 1975 the Dana 44 came stock in front with the 12 bolt in the back. Are these much stronger than the 10 bolts or should I still be lookin for some stronger axles for the size tires I want to run?

Thanks again

 

[ryoken]

sheesh, you confused the he!! out me here when you hijacked this post... my original reply was to the guy wanting to run 39.5's, thats why i reccomended the lift i did...

if your only running 36's i would consider a 4" setup.. thats what i'm doing, 4 susp, zero rates, 1" body with a little cutting.. cheaper than a 6" and more than likely no shaft work...

but anyway, your 12b/44 is about as strong as a pair of 10b. 12b being a little stronger... 44 is effectively the same.. but either way, they should hold up fine with 36"s if your not beating it....

 

[rusty75k5]

Thanks dude. Just tryin to get everythin sorted out.

 

[ryoken]

nah, its cool man... i just started rereadiing the thread and caught your question in there and it thru me off... that why i just changed my recommendation to you, tho you certainly could still go 6 if ya want to.

hopefully he got his info and you've been helped too...

 

[gmcman355]

how much driveshaft work is usually necessary for a 6 in lift

 

[RGV72BLAZER]

yea i think i go thrown off too

 

[ryoken]

how much driveshaft work is usually necessary for a 6 in lift

just a lengthen more than likely.. someone else may chime in...