The iron worker. And upgrades.

[Deuling]

We took the iron worker. The first pic is the only one i have as it was in stock form. And my super quick janky way of using the dimple dies. Drew up a new arm cut that extends to the other side, that way it can be used as a press on the other side.

Built a new lower frame out of 8" wide c channel.

















Now the only issue is, and we did not even think about it untill we had it all set on top of the new frame... But now with the fulcrum in the middle and ram on the left side, all the pressure put on the right side will be trasmittted to the center of the press. Actually trying to force up on the center of the frame.... So what do you guys think the best thing will be to stop the force from bending the frame??? We wanted it all bolted down.. but now thinking it will all need to be solid welded to not try and destroy itself....

 

[76zimmer]

how many tons you got on that jack...20?

 

[Greg72]

This belongs in the "Tool Shed" forum....... In the "Iron Workers in Michigan" sub forum.... In the "Blue Tools" sub-sub forum...... Filed under "Dudeling projects"....

Makes it easier for people to find it.




-G

 

[ryoken]

how about adding something like this?

 

[Deuling]

how many tons you got on that jack...20?

40 ton iirc. That cylinder is like 4 or 5" in diameter iirc.

This belongs in the "Tool Shed" forum....... In the "Iron Workers in Michigan" sub forum.... In the "Blue Tools" sub-sub forum...... Filed under "Dudeling projects"....

Makes it easier for people to find it.

-G

Lol I wasn't sure where I should put it. As it was kind of a build up thing. You can move wherever.

how about adding something like this?

I like that. Only thing was we were hoping to put a shelf in the middle for holding stuff. Punch dies, dimple dies, a swag press brake etc. But it won't do much good to have a shelf if the whole thing bends itself in half I guess

 

[miniwally]

I don't think you have an issue. Look at it again and understand that that the work area was originally between the pivot and the ram so the pivit took up lift already.


I say it's fine.

 

[454Sub]

One vertical bar down the dead center would work, alot like that picture, but allow you to mount horizontal braces that could double as shelves or the framework for them.

 

[Deuling]

I don't think you have an issue. Look at it again and understand that that the work area was originally between the pivot and the ram so the pivit took up lift already.


I say it's fine.

But now look on the right side. Once we hook stuff to it, the pressure on the object will be forcing against the framework to the center fulcrum. Actually trying to lift the press off the base frame.

The left side puts all the pressure between the work table and the arm. That's why the old frame work could be super thin and weak, as all it needed to do was hold the weight. It never took any force from the ram though. Now the right side will have all the force right into it....

That ram has got a lot of power.

 

[Stein]

Yeah, if the new beam was integral to the center fulcrum piece it would work but as it is now it's going to want to jack the fulcrum piece right up off of your new C channel. Even if you add Ryoken's mods all of the force is on the two bolts holding the fulcrum section down to the C channel. When they pop it will be exciting, and not in a good way.

 

[Stein]

The only way I can see making it work is to notch the end of the beam so that it slides back around the fulcrum section and weld it entirely on the upper and lower flange. Then weld in a filler piece between the two sections of fulcrum upright. Finally weld up and down the web of the I beam where it touches the fulcrum filler piece. Make the beam extension part of the ironworker.

 

[Deuling]

The only way I can see making it work is to notch the end of the beam so that it slides back around the fulcrum section and weld it entirely on the upper and lower flange. Then weld in a filler piece between the two sections of fulcrum upright. Finally weld up and down the web of the I beam where it touches the fulcrum filler piece. Make the beam extension part of the ironworker.

Yes the beam extension will be all welded to the unit. Played on both ends, welded and welded to everything.

Funny we never even thought of that. I've never dealt with presses that work on a pivot.

 

[Deuling]

Not much tonight, cut down the chunk of 6" I beam and cut some plates out of 3/8" to go on each end.









This was the original arm for anyone that wondered.

 

[Stomis]

Im gather the point was so you could throat larger stuff?

 

[Deuling]

Im gather the point was so you could throat larger stuff?

The swag brake will be able to be used without removing all the other parts, and also yes, it is taller so that you could fit bigger parts in etc. Differential carriers etc that would not fit on the original.

 

[Deuling]

Added the drill press to it, with some homade pinch clamps so it can be removed. Added mount for hole punch dies and mounts for my dimple dies.

 

[Stomis]

See this is something I dont do enough, make/modify tools to accomplish things faster...

 

[Deuling]

It's pretty cool to have it all together. It could also be loaded on a trailer and brought somewhere else to work on something etc.

Also Brett added a small I beam under the top c channel the whole length and stitch welded it in.

 

[Deuling]

Made a hole saw holder...





And some hooks and junk on the side for clamps, the main power chord. Holder for some lube for drilling and a screwdriver for knocking slugs out of hole saws etc. And a couple tubes to hold some misc drill bits.