Want to live in Mexico ?

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  1. chopped&bobbed77burb

    chopped&bobbed77burb 1/2 ton status

    Oct 5, 2005
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    The following is from a director with SW BELL in Mexico City.
    I spent 5 years working in Mexico.

    I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it
    for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was
    technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.

    During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure
    a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport
    that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was
    the same except hers did not permit her to work.

    To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals
    (not copies) of my:

    1. Birth certificates for Barbara and me.
    2. Marriage certificate.
    3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
    4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of
    5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at
    least one year.
    6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest
    record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good
    7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why
    there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were
    important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on earth"
    letter. It was fun to write.

    All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish
    and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It
    produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and
    Spanish on the right.

    Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied
    by a Mexican attorney touring Mexican government office locations and
    being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each
    location (and we remember at least four locations) we were instructed on
    Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to
    obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the
    Government's actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four
    thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was
    done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US
    customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while
    awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the
    company paid.

    We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and
    under contract and compliance with Mexican law.

    We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing
    process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our
    headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment
    and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed
    and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out
    a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never
    received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was
    never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were
    instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he
    got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.

    We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number
    of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this
    for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal
    size pages annually.

    The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying
    more fees.

    Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were
    leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants,
    tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.

    It was a real adventure and If any of our senators or congressmen went
    through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
    The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep
    its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White
    House or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United
    States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress
    and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with
    their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the
    Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There

    is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting.
    Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California

    or Texas.

    Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard
    on illegal immigrants.

    Last edited: May 4, 2006
  2. potionmaker

    potionmaker 1/2 ton status

    Jan 6, 2006
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    I read it 4 time before my feeling of Deja vu kicked in:D

    Good article though. Thanks for posting.
  3. bigjbear

    bigjbear 1 ton status Staff Member Moderator

    Feb 18, 2000
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    Marietta GA
    Why did you paste the same letter 5x?
  4. chopped&bobbed77burb

    chopped&bobbed77burb 1/2 ton status

    Oct 5, 2005
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    :o I have no idea how that happened But I fixed it :D . Maybe I need a new keyboard :dunno: . Thats just weird that I did that on 2 different posts .
  5. chopped&bobbed77burb

    chopped&bobbed77burb 1/2 ton status

    Oct 5, 2005
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    4 times :eek1: . I sorry . I bet you were like " when is this thing gonna end " :haha: .
  6. cbbr

    cbbr 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Jul 17, 2004
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    High velocity, Low altitude
    Interesting read. I never knew that it was so difficult.
  7. skelly1

    skelly1 1/2 ton status

    Sep 2, 2002
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    San Diego, CA
    I don't go to mexico, despite being an hour away from TJ. The country is corrupt and the people and government have zero respect for the US government, laws, or people. If I were in charge I would put up a fence from Imperial beach to South padre island and completely stop all trade with the country, close all border crossings and play the massachusett's witch hunt with the illegal aliens until every illegal man woman and child are found and deported. Bottom line is that Mexico is a drain on our economy, liveliehood, and tax dollars. They don't appreciate us, fock them, I don't appreciate them. Bastards. And keep your legal herroin and cocaine away from the schools that my kids go to. Oh yeah, you can take your graffiti painting essays and stick the focking gang member trash up your assneck Mr. Fox. The country is garbage. :mad:

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