http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=606553#post606553 And for those of you dipwads who got banned from pirate let's start a NATIONAL MOVEMENT!! I know that most people that "support" the greens, do so out of care of the environment.... labeling them "environmental extremists has not gotten us very far in the past... A few others have brought to the table a new idea of labeling them "Anti-Recreationists".... I say we, the OHV community use this term, to "steal their thunder" (as someone else put it to me).... So lets replace things like "environmental extremist", eco-nazi", and "tree huggers", with a not so condecending term (to make us look better publicly, not because I'm lightening up in any way, shape, or form on them) like Anti-Recreationist... This will take everyone of us to do it and to spread the word among ourselves to make this work, BUT WE CAN DO IT!..... your friends and/or your club could even make a game out of it or something...like everytime someone use one of the "negative" terms, they have to put a buck in the pot and at the end of the month the money gets donated to the PRO-Recreation group of your choice.....just ideas... BUT LETS DO THIS STARTING NOW!!!