Okay, I'm getting ready to order some headers for the 85 K5 and want to make sure that I am buying the best product for the money available to me for this particular item. I cannot afford Thorley headers at this time. Sorry. I realize that they are the best thing since sliced bread and polyester leisure suits, but they cost double the maximum that I am willing to spend right now. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif The headers I have been looking at are: <ul type="square">[*]Hedman painted or ceramic [*]Dynomax painted or ceramic [*]Flowtech Afterburner painted or ceramic [/list] Of those, which is the best quality? I am not getting headers with AIR plumbing as I am doing away with that part of the smog setup. We don't do visual inspections under the hood in my state and I want to make sure that I can gas as many tree-huggers to death as possible. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Your input is greatly appreciated. I've found CK5 to be a tremendous source of hands-on knowledge in the past and trust that you won't let me down this time either.