Yahooooo.....I know I shouldn't wheel the DD/tow rig, but everytime I get out there I can't resist. lol, Almost bit me in the ass today too. Tried a shot at one of the more extreme hill climbs down there...open front and rear. Ended up with my back bumper resting on a pine tree and forward motion wasn't happenin, all on waay waaay steep hill. Dodge cummins to the rescure though...dude drove up the hill past me, stopped, got out and hooked up a tow strap and pulled me up the hill...Blew my frickin mind. /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif My F-250 isn't light. Plus he had a 4 wheeler in the back of the truck too. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Unfortuneatley I couldn't find my friend that had my camera so no pics of that. Sight to see though. Unfortuneatley my respect for the dude fell after seeing his next bone head move. After I backed down, instead of going to the top of the hill and coming back down, or going up and down the other way, he tourned around in the middle of the hill. Lot's of people watchin- showin off almost rolled his truck for him. I have never seen a truck get that close to going over, without actually going over...duh. I got most of that in the pictures though. The rest of the pictures are of my friend John in the white Toyota, Chris in the big turd brown F-250, little cody and the new girlfriend Amber. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gifimp2: Today was the first time John had ever put his truck in 4 wheel drive...was a kick to see how happy and fired up he was getting. Kinda cool to teach him stuff too. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif The pictures of the Dodge on the hill do that hill no justice at all. The hill earned the nickname "The Intimidator". lol, it's nothing for locked rig with a good carb or EFI. Scares alot of people though.