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1.6 Rocker Arms

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I searched like crazy, and can't find an answer. If my 89 Blazer is bone stock except for a throttle body spacer, would there be any issues with the computer if I put on 1.6 rocker arms? It wouldn't change anything except the valves would be open farther, it would be able to get more fuel and air, so more power. Am I right or am I missing something?
 
I don't see them being an issue with the computer. Only lobe centers and problems with manifold vacuum with cams mess up computers I believe. I doubt that 89 computer is smart enough anyway haha
 
You can install 1.6 ratio rockers without any problems BUT don't expect to see any performance gain. Also changing the rocker ratio not only increases valve lift but it also increases max lift dwell time as well (amount of time the valve stays open before starting to close again)
 
the amount of lift gained is minimal, not to mention your engine must "want" the extra to be useful, otherwise it only slows velocity down. I would go roller tip before going the extra .1, not that roller tip gains you anything other than less valvetrain friction.

do the 1.6 if you need rockers, otherwise don't buy them just for performance gain.
 
a friend put them on a tbi 350 once and he said it would rev up alot faster, not really any noticable power increase though
 
the amount of lift gained is minimal, not to mention your engine must "want" the extra to be useful, otherwise it only slows velocity down. I would go roller tip before going the extra .1, not that roller tip gains you anything other than less valvetrain friction.

do the 1.6 if you need rockers, otherwise don't buy them just for performance gain.

It must "want" the extra flow? That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't the increased lift give it the extra flow to create more power? Maybe on a carbed motor, but not on the throttle body?

a friend put them on a tbi 350 once and he said it would rev up alot faster, not really any noticable power increase though

That's weird.
 
It must "want" the extra flow? That doesn't make sense to me.
In other words, you put a big 850 carb on a 50cc Honda dirt bike, the engine doesn't want, or specifically can't use a carb that big. You take a stock engine and throw some big 230cc runner heads on it and the engine is going to run like a turd because it can't make use of the larger runners. Intake Velocity dies at that point. The bottom end is going to pull in so much air/fuel, combined with a lot of other things. But the volume and speed the incoming air flows has a lot to do with power. Same bottom end + more volume top end = less velocity. Cam timing, c.i., compression also come into play. Just like K&N filters, not every engine needs less restriction, simply cause it can't pull air in faster.

Its hard for me to explain cause I'm not an engine guy, I've only been around it a short time, but never in it, so I learn in bits and pieces. Sorry
 
Seriously? No performance gain at all?

Lets assume for a minute that you have a cam that has .300" LOBE lift. A .300" lobe lift multiplied by a stock 1.5 rocker will achieve .450" VALVE lift. That same .300" LOBE lift cam running a 1.6 rocker will now only give you .480" VALVE lift. You gained .030" of valve lift which is nothing in comparison to doing other mods that would give lots more power for the dollar.
 
All you will gain is a little better throttle responce. maybe slightly better low /midrange torque. Assuming you have performance exhaust.
You wont gain any top end power. You are limited by the heads. which dont flow over 46-4800 RPM.
IMO any performance gains are seen because aftermarket lifters are usually made more consistant than OEM mass produced stamped rockers The stock rockers can vary quite a bit in ratio from each other.
If you are dead set on replacing the rockers with 1.6. I would go with a set of quality stamped steel roller tip rockers.
But
Your money woulld be far better spent on headers/exhaust/high flow cat, if you want more power.
Your stock cat and muffler are very restrictive.
If you dont have good exhaust. All the mods in the world on the intake side wont do much good if you cant get any flow out the exhaust pipe
 
All you will gain is a little better throttle responce. maybe slightly better low /midrange torque. Assuming you have performance exhaust.
You wont gain any top end power. You are limited by the heads. which dont flow over 46-4800 RPM.
IMO any performance gains are seen because aftermarket lifters are usually made more consistant than OEM mass produced stamped rockers The stock rockers can vary quite a bit in ratio from each other.
If you are dead set on replacing the rockers with 1.6. I would go with a set of quality stamped steel roller tip rockers.
But
Your money woulld be far better spent on headers/exhaust/high flow cat, if you want more power.
Your stock cat and muffler are very restrictive.
If you dont have good exhaust. All the mods in the world on the intake side wont do much good if you cant get any flow out the exhaust pipe
You explained it the best for me to understand what everyone was already trying to tell me. I had already bought them, and then realized I was dumb and should figure out if I want to keep them or return them. They are good steel 1.6 roller tips from Pace Performance, recommended by tbichips.com. I think I may return them, I still have time, and then I can get the headers that I need (leak from p-side manifold) and the rest of the exhaust done up all fancy like.
 
Recon,

You are where I was a year ago. Sell the 1.6 rockers for now, or save them until you can do more mods (better heads & cam)

I found the best bang for the buck were the mods from CFM-Tech, and opening up the exhaust. Get rid of that stock "Y" pipe & put on "true duals", get a K&N filter. If your in Colorado, get a custom chip from;

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