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1 Ton Sammi??

Copasetic

Copasetic

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How hard would it be to put 1 tons under a Sammi? How bout a 350 w/ a 4L60E? My wheels have been turning hard about this and I'd like some answers before the rest of my stuff starts getting gone. If anyone has any links to similar builds or tech articles, please forward them my way. Thanks!!
 
your ruining the whole point and thing of beauty about the sami


they rock because they are small and light. with a 1.3, header, 6.xx to 1 gears in the case and toyota axles they will live forever and make rigs with 40k in them look stupid. Even with out the gears they are incredible nimble little machines. What hurts them is wheel base,but that can be a good thing in other places.
 
supersize75k5 said:
your ruining the whole point and thing of beauty about the sami


they rock because they are small and light. with a 1.3, header, 6.xx to 1 gears in the case and toyota axles they will live forever and make rigs with 40k in them look stupid. Even with out the gears they are incredible nimble little machines. What hurts them is wheel base,but that can be a good thing in other places.
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I get what your saying but I already have all of this one ton stuff here and would like to use it if it would even be feasible. So you think it would be in my best interest to try to finish selling my parts and keep it simple?
 
I saw a sammi on pirate4x4 the other day with rockwells and 46s. That thing was badass!
 
Copasetic said:
I get what your saying but I already have all of this one ton stuff here and would like to use it if it would even be feasible. So you think it would be in my best interest to try to finish selling my parts and keep it simple?
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the whole sami is around 1800lbs? it will tear its self to pieces with out alot of work and time. They are really fun to wheel with little mods. They are fun because they are small. I got to drive one my friends and i did, we put some old willys axles in it with 5.xx gears, linked the front, junk yard coils, and 35 inch boggers and cut fenders. It seemed to go freaking everywhere and was way fun to drive compared to my truggy.
 
Stomis said:
6.5 tcase, stock toy axles with some lockers, SPOA w/ yj springs + 34 ltbs = beautiful.
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Yeah, I've talked myself out of the hairbrained idea of "me" putting tons and all of that into a Sammi. I don't have the skills nor the funds to be able to make that happen. I'm just going to try and finish selling what I've got, save that up, then buy one already built or find one cheap and build up. Thanks for all of the input guys! :bow:
 
There was one several years ago in one of the 4x4 mags that had D60's front and rear and a 283v8 th350 and I think it was on 44's.

I agree though it kinda defetes the coolness of them. The whole idea of them is to keep it cheap and light.

If I was to build a sami, heres what I would do. Use a GM 2.8 V6 and either a 2wd 5 speed out of a s10 or a 200r4 depending on if you like auto or stick. SOA lift, and front shackle reversal, low gear set in the t-case, skinny 33-34" tires and lockers. MINIMAL cage/body armor to keep it light yet safe. I would also try to push the rear axle back as far as I could and simply tub it rearward, same with th front axle forward.

A friend of mine wheeled one for years mostly stock welded rear SOA 35's and hacked fenders, and used a 3500lb ATV winch for recovery, it just worked.
 
i own a zoo.

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keep it small and light. i know it's weird only wanting 31s or 33s or whatever, but they go everywhere.

a stock YJ weighs almost 2 tons, i weigh half that with about 2" smaller stock tires.

when i first got my zoo spoa, i had stock gears, open diffs and 31s. i was easily going through mud that was sticking jeeps and fullsizes with 33s and lockers. those guys were mad. mind you, i was driving a lot faster than they were. but i was first gear, 4lo, and about 4 grand on the tach. that cleaned the tires out.

i wish i had 10 zoos.
i've got the one now and 3 or 4 very different direction to build some other ones.
 
OffRoad said:
i own a zoo.

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keep it small and light. i know it's weird only wanting 31s or 33s or whatever, but they go everywhere.

a stock YJ weighs almost 2 tons, i weigh half that with about 2" smaller stock tires.

when i first got my zoo spoa, i had stock gears, open diffs and 31s. i was easily going through mud that was sticking jeeps and fullsizes with 33s and lockers. those guys were mad. mind you, i was driving a lot faster than they were. but i was first gear, 4lo, and about 4 grand on the tach. that cleaned the tires out.

i wish i had 10 zoos.
i've got the one now and 3 or 4 very different direction to build some other ones.
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yeah I'm leaning toward more of the 33" to no more than 35" tire range. I've got my eye on one that's turn key that I want SOOOO freakin bad. Dude is in no real rush to sell it but needs it gone by the first of the year. He's willing to work with me as much as he can on it but I need my parts gone ASAP so I can get it.
 
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I have a fondness for the tin tops as well but I wouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth either. That one isnt how Id do it but I damn sure take it if it was given too me. Its nice!
 
Why do I think that a stock yj doesnt weigh 2 tons...

Leave it on skinny 33's and you can keep the stock axles. The chromo axles for them are DIRT cheap, like $200 for a front set because someone tried to under sell someone else and they are selling them for cost to spite the other company.
 
muddermilitia said:
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Now that right there is a person with no fun when wheeling . How hard can it be to run a trail with :

1. A body so skinny you can't catch a dent .

2. Tires so large you roll over rocks .

Ain't no fun in that ......... remember people used to do the Rubicon in Jeeps on 235/75's and Broncos with 31's :p:
 
pauly383 said:
Now that right there is a person with no fun when wheeling . How hard can it be to run a trail with :

1. A body so skinny you can't catch a dent .

2. Tires so large you roll over rocks .

Ain't no fun in that ......... remember people used to do the Rubicon in Jeeps on 235/75's and Broncos with 31's :p:
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Shoot, I dont know where you wheel, but I know plenty of trails that would still give that thing a workout.
 
As cool as a Zuk would be on 1 tons it's just not a practicle build. They don't need that kind of money thrown at them to wheel hard. If you were going to go with 33/35 tires I would upgrade axles but not to D60/14FF level. I would not put a small block in one either. Find the 1.6L and do the simple swap. There kits for it all day long, It's a bolt in deal.

My bud has a Zuk he paid 1100 bucks for, We rebuild the transfer case with the 3:1 or 6:1 crawl gear don't remember which one exactly but anyways, Did the 1.6L swap, Did a cal mini lift, still spring under, I told him he should have went spring over ofcourse but whatever. He put 31 BFG Mud Terains on it. It wheels great. He just needs lockers and we need to finish the cage and it's done. He has less then 4500 into it. He did all the work his self.
 
rdn2blazer said:
As cool as a Zuk would be on 1 tons it's just not a practicle build. They don't need that kind of money thrown at them to wheel hard. If you were going to go with 33/35 tires I would upgrade axles but not to D60/14FF level. I would not put a small block in one either. Find the 1.6L and do the simple swap. There kits for it all day long, It's a bolt in deal.

My bud has a Zuk he paid 1100 bucks for, We rebuild the transfer case with the 3:1 or 6:1 crawl gear don't remember which one exactly but anyways, Did the 1.6L swap, Did a cal mini lift, still spring under, I told him he should have went spring over ofcourse but whatever. He put 31 BFG Mud Terains on it. It wheels great. He just needs lockers and we need to finish the cage and it's done. He has less then 4500 into it. He did all the work his self.
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I agree with you. Especially since the more on this topic I've read here and on other sites, not to mention the praticality of it. The Zuk I'm trying to get rid of my stuff to buy is already upgraded and turnkey. It's a really awesome rig on 33's, locked, upgraded everything. The only thing I would do to it is a cage later. Know anyone that needs some H1's, D60, a van width 14BFF, TBI 350, 4L60E, and a 203 case? :D
 
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