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$1000 350 rebuild?

bigbadchev84

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hey guys im needing suggestions as to if it is even possible to do this:

My buddy has a 1980 crew cab 350/465/205 60/14b with 4.56 gears and some metric 32" tires, He mainly uses this to tow his 28' camp trailer and his utility trailer. his current motor is getting tired and has problems pulling grades above 50mph and he complains of no power in 4th.

I gave him a 350 out of a 76' that i junked, it runs, but has low oil pressure-5psi when warm 25 when cold and it smokes a bit, he is wanting to rebuild it. is it posible to do this with $1000? if so what combos should we look at? i told him to spend the $1400.00 to get the 290hp gm crate, but he thinks he can build a better motor with more hp for that price? Is it doable or is he drinking his bathwater?
 
its possible

but when he gets thru is it going to have the 36/50,000 mile warranty that the 290 hp gm crate motor will have?:wink1:
 
I paid about $900 for a totally rebuilt 350 with a new crank and the heads completely rebuilt. The build did not come with any high performance parts at all just your average oem equivalent but it does have flat top pistions.

It has a 12 month 12k warranty which will have expired by the time I get the damn thing on the trail!
 
8_YOUR_H2 said:
It has a 12 month 12k warranty which will have expired by the time I get the damn thing on the trail!

:haha:

just out of curiosity, where are yall taking your motors to be rebuilt at these prices? rod shops? machine shops?
 
MattK said:
just out of curiosity, where are yall taking your motors to be rebuilt at these prices? rod shops? machine shops?

I called a reputable shop in my town and told them what I wanted. I just had the basic rebuild done with their parts. They gave me reconditioned connecting rods and oem valves. The heads I had were loaded with some outrageously heavy springs so they put in oem springs too.

So far I have broke the motor in and it runs fine.
 
blazin_blazer said:
but when he gets thru is it going to have the 36/50,000 mile warranty that the 290 hp gm crate motor will have?:wink1:

FWIW, that only applies to engines that are speced out for that vehicle. if the truck happens to call for the 290 hp GMPP engine, then the 36/50,000 warranty would work. it also has to be installed by a reputable shop IIRC.
 
i did one for my own truck in '99, reconditioned the heads, bore and hone, tank and crack check everything, align hone, checked the rods out myself, they were ok, reconditioned crank, new pistons, rings, bearings, cam and lifters and i did all the assembly work myself for $800.
 
blazin_blazer said:
but when he gets thru is it going to have the 36/50,000 mile warranty that the 290 hp gm crate motor will have?:wink1:

New or remanufactured GM Engines are designed to meet or exceed your requirements! These auto engines and parts are tested to make sure they’ll perform under the most demanding conditions and backed by a 36-month/100,000 mile nationwide limited warranty (parts & labor).
Engines designed for OEM warranty replacement use only GM authorized replacement parts. Engines for older vehicles are optimized for best performance value and price. Design enhancements and product improvements are incorporated into some remanufactured car or truck engines.
Plus, service is available at nearly 7,000 GM dealers across the United States and Canada.
 
SLOK5 said:
New or remanufactured GM Engines are designed to meet or exceed your requirements! These auto engines and parts are tested to make sure they’ll perform under the most demanding conditions and backed by a 36-month/100,000 mile nationwide limited warranty (parts & labor).
Engines designed for OEM warranty replacement use only GM authorized replacement parts. Engines for older vehicles are optimized for best performance value and price. Design enhancements and product improvements are incorporated into some remanufactured car or truck engines.
Plus, service is available at nearly 7,000 GM dealers across the United States and Canada.

I think blazin_blazer was suggesting that if he built the motor himself he wouldn't get the 36/100,000 mile warranty that he would get if he went the the 290 hp GM create motor.
 
i took a running 350 and rebuilt it and it cost me about $300 total. i bought the kit from northern auto parts and took my heads and block to the local shop for valve job and jetwash the block for $110. is probably the most reliable/most power engine i have for the money i have into it.
 
FWIW...
Warranty

The following warranty information is stated by the manufacturer. Some individual products have seperate warranty specifications. please refer to the above product description for any possible specific warranty details.
Performance Parts
Due to the nature and intended use of GM Performance Parts, the parts are sold without any expressed or implied warranty. If a GM Performance Part proves to be defective following the purchase, the purchaser must contact the selling authorized GM Performance Parts dealer to resolve the issue.

Engine and Partial Engine Warranty
General Motors Performance Parts warrants to the original retail purchaser for the time of 12 months from the date of purchase and/or 12,000 miles, that it will repair or replace, at its option, using new or remanufactured parts, any GM Performance Parts engine or partial engine, including partial engines in kits, that fail due to defect in material or workmanship. Coverage is for the cost of the parts only, labor cost not covered.



THIS WARRANTY DOES NOT COVER:

  • Damage due to improper installation, negligence, alteration, accident,
    or use for which the unit was not designed or approved by General Motors,
    including, but not limited to, improper use, or any use other than a vehicle
    it was designed for, or any use related to racing or competition. Proper
    vehicle use is discussed in the vehicle Owner’s Manual. In addition,
    coverage does not apply if the odometer has been disconnected or the mileage
    reading has been altered.
  • Damage caused by lack of proper maintenance as described in the vehicle’s
    original Owner’s Manual/Maintenance Schedule, failure to follow Maintenance
    Schedule intervals, or failure to use or maintain proper type and levels
    of fluid, fuel, oil, and lubricants recommended in the Owner’s Manual/Maintenance
    Schedule. Proof of proper maintenance is the owner’s responsibility.
    Keep all receipts and be prepared to make them available

    if questions arise about maintenance.
  • Damage as a result of overheating, contamination or lack of lubrication.
  • Loss of time, inconvenience, loss of use, or other economic loss.
  • Vehicles registered and normally operated outside of the United States.
  • This warranty does not apply to any unit installed under the General Motors
    New-Vehicle Warranty.

And, as always, if your are not completey satisfied with your purchase, you may return the new / unused parts within 90 days from the invoice date. Read our entire return policy

http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/120/products/228960/290HP-350-Long-Block-Pre-Emissions-GM-Crate-Engine.htm
 
i have a place saved to my favorites at work that has rebuilt longblocks with a 5yr/100,000 warranty, and it doesn't matter who installs the engine. i will post a link to this place tomorrow. i have a friend who bought a 454 longblock from them and then got the rest of the stuff he needed from summit and swapped his 84 k10 over to a big block, its been about 4 months and no trouble yet.
 
Sorry for the highjack but in about a year or so im going to do a 454 swap in my k5 i can pick up a running 454 for 600 with tbi but no harness or computer. I talked to a local shop i they said they could rebuild it for about $1000 to $1400 depending on what i wanted with a 1/10,000 warranty. I think he said for a 383 stroker it would be about $900 buck, but which would be the better route?
 
A budget rebuild could be easily done for under a grand if you're doing the work yourself. I would suggest putting some good heads on it, Vortecs work well, and putting a larger cam in it, with the 4.56's and 32's that motor is going to spin some R's on the highway, get a cam that will put the powerband where you want it. That GM 350 is a good motor too, I would again suggest a larger cam if you go that route. Stock cams are anemic. A set of headers and good exhaust would help too, if not already equipped.
 
blazin_blazer said:
this place has a 5 yr/100,000 warranty no matter who installs it!

http://www.powerpro2000.com/long_block_engines.htm

http://www.powerpro2000.com/warranty.htm

check it out

After working in an install place I know why they do this and how it works.

Because 90% of the time, if the engine fails they will pin it on the install. That is unless you have ALL the proper documentation and can prove to them without a doubt that it was their fault..... but even then it is up to their "lab" to determine if it was their fault.

On top of that it will normally take them about a year or so to get you your cash from the warranty.
 
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