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14 bolt semi float conversion

thebluemax

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What is the biggest tires a sf 14 bolt can handle? Has anyone done a six lug conversion of an 80's type semi floater? If anyone has any pointers it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Well I've seen up to 40"s on the 14sf so it up to you and your rig really and how hard you drive. Also the 14sf was offered in 6 lug and 8 lug depending what application it came from. I found a 6 lug 14sf for my 99tahoe to help with towing.
 
What is the biggest tires a sf 14 bolt can handle? Has anyone done a six lug conversion of an 80's type semi floater? If anyone has any pointers it would be greatly appreciated.

easies, cheapest, fasted might be to just 8 lug the front :dunno:

bigger front brakes are always good
 
easies, cheapest, fasted might be to just 8 lug the front :dunno:

bigger front brakes are always good

Are the calipers/pads any different? I thought they were the same unless you went w/ a 60.
 
the rotors are bigger

So same clamping force and same friction area. Only dif is a slightly better (longer) leverage legnth. I wouldn't call that an upgrade.

As far as the cheep/easy part I agree, though.
 
So same clamping force and same friction area. Only dif is a slightly better (longer) leverage legnth. I wouldn't call that an upgrade.

As far as the cheep/easy part I agree, though.


If that pad size doesn't change, but the rotor gets bigger.....yes, the clamping force is the same. BUT, the rotor's purpose is to dissipate heat, which is a serous responsibility on the front of one of these heavier trucks. The more it can dissipate heat, the less fade you will experience.

The leverage length only comes into play if the pad is farther than the center....and if it is, that is a benefit too.
 
Well I've seen up to 40"s on the 14sf so it up to you and your rig really and how hard you drive. Also the 14sf was offered in 6 lug and 8 lug depending what application it came from. I found a 6 lug 14sf for my 99tahoe to help with towing.
Since for whatever reason I can't PM you, I'll just ask here. How much work was involved in putting that 14bsf in your Tahoe? I'll be doing the same to mine in a few years and am looking at an '88-plus 6 lug 14 bolt.
 
I won't go into details since it has already been done MANY TIMES on this site. The short version is that there are 2 choices in 14sf:
1) The older 8-lug version which bolts into your truck
2) The newer 6-lug version with the spring and shock pads in different places.

Whether you move the mounting features on the new one or swap axleshafts and brakes on the old one is up to you.
 
I won't go into details since it has already been done MANY TIMES on this site. The short version is that there are 2 choices in 14sf:
1) The older 8-lug version which bolts into your truck
2) The newer 6-lug version with the spring and shock pads in different places.

Whether you move the mounting features on the new one or swap axleshafts and brakes on the old one is up to you.
It's going in my Yukon fyi. So that prolly changes your suggestion a bit I think, the older one needs work while the newer one will be a bolt-in job. Correct?
 
Correct!

The one I helped Matt install in his Tahoe was from a 97 Chevy light duty 3/4 ton (6 lugger). It bolted straight in, and everything plugged straight in as well. We did wind up ditching the sway bar as the new diff did not have the mounts on it, but we did install a set of air bags to help with towing / sway
 
The axle swap was fairly easy considering we did in outside on the garage pad in a freak snow storm :rolleyes: I ditched the sway bar as the axle didn't have the mounts on it for that but instead installed a set of Firestone air bag helpers for towing and sway reduction. Works pretty good towing an older 21foot camper trailer up and down mountain passes. Here's a quick picture showing the setup.



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So same clamping force and same friction area. Only dif is a slightly better (longer) leverage legnth. I wouldn't call that an upgrade.

As far as the cheep/easy part I agree, though.


If that pad size doesn't change, but the rotor gets bigger.....yes, the clamping force is the same. BUT, the rotor's purpose is to dissipate heat, which is a serous responsibility on the front of one of these heavier trucks. The more it can dissipate heat, the less fade you will experience.

The leverage length only comes into play if the pad is farther than the center....and if it is, that is a benefit too.

A larger rotor has a larger distance from the center to the acting force (caliper and pad) and hence will cause a larger moment (i.e. more torque to stop the vehicle).

With the same size caliper, pads, master cylinder etc. a 12" rotor will stop almost 10% better than an 11" one, simply based on size and leverage and of course it will cool better too.
 

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