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1410 option for 208/241 front shaft

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It exists! I wanted a better front shaft but I'll be running a 208 or 241 for a while as I don't foresee having the money for a doubler in the near future.

I have the 52" springs in the front so I have decent driveshaft angle and travel requirements. I was running a front shaft without a CV that seemed to be working fine. It was 1310 at the axle and 1310/S44 at the t-case.

Now don't laugh but I had taken the flange from my factory CV, cut out the centering ball and used a conversion joint to run this shaft. It worked, but I was really worried about the ears spreading apart.
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So I didn't want to keep that shaft in there much longer. I really didn't want to spend the money on a 1350 CV and then if the shaft needed to be repaired for some reason I'd get nailed in the wallet again.

I called and talked to Jess at High Angle Driveline (HAD). Come to find out I could get a 1410 shaft for the front with a flange for the 208/241 tcase. I ended up getting the shaft and a 1410 D60 yoke.

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My angle finder says about 42°, but Jess says it's a 38° setup. I think the reason mine is higher is because the tcase flange isn't perfectly perpendicular.

My shaft is 35.5" at static length, that's from flange face to center of cap in the axle end. It's built with 9" of slip, 3" compressed & 6" extended. That gives me 1-2" of extra slip in both directions.

It was a little bit of a trick to get installed. For one thing, this is a heavy mother. :saweet: The other complication is the size of the 1410 yoke makes the clearance to get the bolts in the flange a little tight. I had to wiggle them a bit, but they did go. It would be much easier with 2 people, one to hold the shaft while the other gets the bolts in. I wonder if a stud setup could be made to work easier. :thinking:

I know some are probably wondering how much? I actually can't say because this ended up being a gift, so I don't know what the cost is. Best bet is to call Jess at HAD. :D I know it was considerably less than a 1350 CV shaft and I like the simplicity of single 1410 joints.

I just thought I'd share because I didn't think something like this was even possible. Plus I found out you can even get a 1410 slip yoke for the rear shaft. :thinking: Can't decide on that one because eventually I'd like to get an SYE. :doah:
 
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Thats pretty cool! Might wanna wait on the 1410 slip yoke for the rear. I've read somewhere about a rear output shaft you can get for the SYE and run a 1410 rear yoke. I think its a modified shaft from a 205? Forgot who sells it though.
 
hey thats pretty cool, trade ya flattops for it! lol would this be a good "mud" driveshaft? so like a highspeed shaft? it looks awesome!
 
That's pretty sweet. Is it balanced enough to run on the street at lower speeds (under 30)?

Harley
 
That's pretty sweet. Is it balanced enough to run on the street at lower speeds (under 30)?

Harley
He said there would be what he called a "floating" vibration above like 5mph, but there isn't any problem running it at higher speeds. I was going to drive it in this morning because with all the snow I could run all the way in 4wd, but I didn't leave myself enough time to get the truck uncovered from the snow.

I was able to run my silly 1310 shaft at over 30mph, so I'd think this one would be okay too. I'll know for sure when we do the snow run in Feb 2nd. I'm sure I'll get the wheels turning 30mph or better; now whether or not I'll be moving is a different story. :D


hey thats pretty cool, trade ya flattops for it! lol would this be a good "mud" driveshaft? so like a highspeed shaft? it looks awesome!
No, I don't want the flattops back like some bad penny. :p: :rotfl:

I guess you'd have to call Jess and make sure. I wouldn't have concerns about 30mph or less operation like Harley was asking. I think it would depend on the operating angle, but I don't know enough about driveshaft to say for sure. I know tRusty runs a straight 1410 shaft, but I also know his is a fairly small angle because he's running the NV4500 and doubler. To be honest I avoid mud like the plague. :doah:

Mine sits at a static angle of 19°, FWIW.

Damn, I knew I should have drove the General in today. Then I could have had a better first-hand knowledge answer to give you. Hopefully tRusty will see this and chime in on how his does.


Thats pretty cool! Might wanna wait on the 1410 slip yoke for the rear. I've read somewhere about a rear output shaft you can get for the SYE and run a 1410 rear yoke. I think its a modified shaft from a 205? Forgot who sells it though.
Yeah, I'm hoping that if I do get an SYE, I can get a 1410 yoke.
 
very nice scott! i really need one for mine, just havent bitten the bullet yet
 
i havent called to find out, but from HAD with 1410 stuff im sure its a pretty penny, but definitely worth it. id guess $5-600 maybe?
 
I don't think it would be that much, I'm thinking closer to $300 but I don't know for sure. I'll see if I can figure it out.
 
Okay here's what I got from Jess:
This kind of shaft is a less expensive way to achieve angles higher than 30 degree's - now on some of the applications (AND it varies) you will get vibrations due to operating angles above 5 mph - they are all balanced but this does not mean all will be smooth due to higher angles - i can tell you the longer the shaft the better the odd's of less vibs- cost starts at 389.00 and goes up depending on tube size and also long slip requirements- Jess
 
FWIW, here's the "installed" pic.

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Since I'm a nerd like that, I repainted the shaft and put a different sticker on it. :dunno:
 
As an update for some that were asking, I've run the front shaft over 40mph and didn't notice any vibrations. I used to get a growl out of the 1310 straight shaft coming on and off the accelerator; I don't get that now with the 1410 shaft. Keeping in mind the lack of vibration has a lot to do with the static angle and length of my shaft.
 

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