14b Gov-Lock HELP needed

[combatmatt]

Just picked up a 14 Bolt FF with 4.56 gears (matching my front D60) and cracked it open to find . . . . . .a gov lock . Knowing that its a POS and is going to grenade on me when i need it most on the trail (or in a parking lot) it needs to go but how?

Will the R & P gears on the gov lock carrier fit if i swap them over to an open carrier? (are they the same thickness, etc...)
-or-
Is there a bolt in fix for a 3 pin carrier?
-or-
Is it easier to just find a new axle?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[dyeager535]

Gov-lock in the 14FF isn't nearly as bad as the 8.5/9.5 variants.

Really depends how you are going to use the truck I suppose.

 

[combatmatt]

Going to run 37's TSL for now, using it to get to and from the trail + some moderate rock crawling once i get there (not hammers tough but more like rubicon tough). With all the bad press the gov lock gets i dont want to rebuild and move the perches/shock mounts and convert to disks on something that was doomed from the beginning.

 

[toomany]

If you're that concerned about it, just find an open carrier for 4.56 and up. It'll swap right in without a problem.

Or you could weld the one you have now...better traction and you don't have to worry about it poping on you (if it's welded correctly).

I wheeld the pi$$ outa my gov-loc'd 14BFF for 3 years before I welded it. It never worked like it was supposed to (always a one wheel peel). I welded it when I put the 4.88's in and never looked back.

 

[sweetk30]

first look here for 14ff info and pics. http://www.coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151608

and 14ff gov-loc is a good unit much over the little crappy ones.

i use to run 38" tsl on my 1ton with built 400sbc and no problems.

also if you want a 4.56 carrier look here. http://www.coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223304

 

[Mudstud]

Now comes the question about traction. Weld it or replace it with a detroit cuz there ain't no gov lock comparable to a welded or detroit locked rear.

 

[Dabba]

find a detroit

 

[sweetk30]

find a detroit & a open carrier

fixed it for ya

 

[Jimmy4matt]

Pull the gov-loc out, pull the ring gear off and pull the three large screws that hold the carrier together. Pry the halves apart, then clean it and look at the teeth on the two parts that jam together to lock the axle. Most of the teeth were broken off mine. I had the local drivetrain shop put a new open carrier and install a detroit. If the teeth had been good I would have just run it and been glad I had something benign on the street that would lock once a wheel spins.

 

[Jimmy4matt]

4.56 geared detroit locked CUCV axles aren't too hard to find.