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14FF disc brake conversion rings. Checking intrest, may machine & sell these

Hey rob, figure out a 6 lug conversion and i may be down :whistle:



It may be a custom spicific for you but totally doable. I doubt I'll do production for 6 lug stuff. Will be all 8 lug stuff. I'm an 8 lugger at hart :D.
 
It may be a custom spicific for you but totally doable. I doubt I'll do production for 6 lug stuff. Will be all 8 lug stuff. I'm an 8 lugger at hart :D.

Yah im trying to figure out a way to run disks and a 14 bolt but still run 15" 6 lugs. I may just end up going drums and a 6lug semi float though.
 
Question answered. thank you.

By the way, they look really good. I respect the craftsmanship and ingenuity. I think ultimately, whether or not they're successful depends on price.

Obviously, the best time to put them in would be when you first convert to discs. I wouldn't consider them until I had to replace the rotors. Not because I don't like the idea, just because I'm too lazy to put them in until I'm in there anyway.

You may seriously want to consider pitching this to someone who already sells a disc conversion 'kit' using flat brackets (ORD, GLO, etc). If they decide to use you as a subvendor, or buy the design, you'd probably profit a lot more due to the volume that their marketing already produces.
 
Question answered. thank you.

By the way, they look really good. I respect the craftsmanship and ingenuity. I think ultimately, whether or not they're successful depends on price.

Obviously, the best time to put them in would be when you first convert to discs. I wouldn't consider them until I had to replace the rotors. Not because I don't like the idea, just because I'm too lazy to put them in until I'm in there anyway.

You may seriously want to consider pitching this to someone who already sells a disc conversion 'kit' using flat brackets (ORD, GLO, etc). If they decide to use you as a subvendor, or buy the design, you'd probably profit a lot more due to the volume that their marketing already produces.


Not a bad idea to consider. If time comes and opportunity arises, I would consider that, with stipulations :D.
 
Question answered. thank you.

By the way, they look really good. I respect the craftsmanship and ingenuity. I think ultimately, whether or not they're successful depends on price.

Obviously, the best time to put them in would be when you first convert to discs. I wouldn't consider them until I had to replace the rotors. Not because I don't like the idea, just because I'm too lazy to put them in until I'm in there anyway.

You may seriously want to consider pitching this to someone who already sells a disc conversion 'kit' using flat brackets (ORD, GLO, etc). If they decide to use you as a subvendor, or buy the design, you'd probably profit a lot more due to the volume that their marketing already produces.

Not a bad idea to consider. If time comes and opportunity arises, I would consider that, with stipulations :D.
The only thing I see wrong with this is that when you pitch the idea to someone else whom sells the majority of the parts or kits, they're not gonna want to pay a price then have to add a percentage more for the parts to their own kit in order to make a profit for themselves.

In other words, they may as well buy a ring or two and then rob the idea as their own and start mass producing them for cheaper and sell them in their kits then.

Want to prevent this? Get a patent on the rings. :waytogo:

Otherwise I'd just start making caliper mounts and the rings to sell as another kit out there on the market.
 
The only thing I see wrong with this is that when you pitch the idea to someone else whom sells the majority of the parts or kits, they're not gonna want to pay a price then have to add a percentage more for the parts to their own kit in order to make a profit for themselves.

In other words, they may as well buy a ring or two and then rob the idea as their own and start mass producing them for cheaper and sell them in their kits then.

Want to prevent this? Get a patent on the rings. :waytogo:

Otherwise I'd just start making caliper mounts and the rings to sell as another kit out there on the market.


Noone can get a patent on these now. It's been long over one year sinse I posted this and the rule/law in the United States is one year, after that it's public information period. Anyone can manufacture them. But, noone does so I will. I spoke to a patent lawyer just last week about a different product. If anyone ever wants to get a patent on any product or invention, you MUST produce or invent it in secret period.
 
What kind of price? I'm interested in these.
 
So their only advantage is that they're shiny? Not trying to be a dick, but that's a hard pitch.

Martin
 
So their only advantage is that they're shiny? Not trying to be a dick, but that's a hard pitch.

Martin


Then it looks like your not going to be buying them then will you. I'm ok with that.
 
So their only advantage is that they're shiny? Not trying to be a dick, but that's a hard pitch.

Martin

Are you not friends with any machinists? You would understand if you are lol
 
Martin, in case you missed it.....:whistle:

The main advantage is not having to pound out the wheel studs to replace the rotors. You remove the hub/rotor assembly, unbolt the rotor, bolt new one on and your done. No BFH necessary to deal with. They're also a bad ass piece of beautiful machined art. Like any machined piece is, so it will automatically make your rig rock crawl better. And go faster too, but for four wheel drives it will make it crawl better too :D.

So their only advantage is that they're shiny? Not trying to be a dick, but that's a hard pitch.

Martin

I kind of like this ring idea of yours. I don't see any downside, anyone?
 
Martin, in case you missed it.....:whistle:





I kind of like this ring idea of yours. I don't see any downside, anyone?



I of course know most guys wont go through rotors all that often. But I'd bet, the first time after installation you do have to change a worn or warped or damaged rotor, you're going to be glad you did. It will take 1/8 the time. Hardest part will be breaking the bolts loose, but if you use anti-seize that won't be an issue. Infact I may supply that for that reason.
 
I think it's a cool idea. But these are way too shiny for my rig. :D I currently have drums, but I do plan on converting to disc someday. This is something I would consider getting at that time depending on the cost
 
I think it's a cool idea. But these are way too shiny for my rig. :D I currently have drums, but I do plan on converting to disc someday. This is something I would consider getting at that time depending on the cost
I'm always a sucker for shiny, machined billet parts, especially from aluminum. :thumb:
 
Hay, aluminum can be painted black too ya know :wink1:. Price will have to be figured out still, but as a quick guess, maybe something close to wheel spacers. They're about the same thing only different.
 
Some may know I'm going to be starting a small machine shop. Getting a cnc mill. These rings I made, I may start machining them and selling them. Checking intrest. Price is unknown right at the time. Maybe about what a typical wheel spacer runs as a quick guess. That will have to be figured out though to be more spicific.

These were spicifically for a disc brake conversion, It's going to take a while to get up and running, but I want to check intrest on lots of parts before we just go machining stuff.

Then it looks like your not going to be buying them then will you. I'm ok with that.

I wasn't trying to be a dick.

Martin
 
I must be missing the whole boat from looking at my dodge D60 /14 bolt parts all the time.....

I'm not really sure how my disks and hubs stack,,, but I'm sure my aftermarket TSI brackets and front D60 brackets don't have any offset,,, and the disk simply slides over the studs on the 14 bolt now ?? am I wrong ??

or maybe I'm totally confused.... won't be the first time....

could someone please post a picture of the hub on the axle along with the caliper mount so I can get an idea where / what these do..... and if I have to have some of these shiny new bling rings on my buggy.....:woot:

I'm all for easy and fast when it comes to doing things!!!

BTW nice work Rob !!!
 
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