You mom had an S10 blazer with a 4.3 that got worse mileage than my dad's burbank.
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2014 GM truck MPG's released.
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You mom had an S10 blazer with a 4.3 that got worse mileage than my dad's burbank.
I have a damn hard time believing that it is somehow better for the environment to have vehicles producing "cleaner" emissions, while getting far crappier mileage than they otherwise would. If vehicles had fewer emissions requirements and thus had far better mileage, we wouldn't have the emissions associated with drilling, production, and delivery of so much fuel because we'd be using less of it. Oil lobbiests and the EPA probably work pretty well together to keep this status quo. A free market would produce better fuel economy and limit emissions FAR better than ridiculous government restriction.
It's sad that the topic of mileage even has to be an issue...gasoline should only be around a dollar a gallon...it is artificially inflated.
Think of me as the Government. You are a carpenter. You use tin nails.
I put a tax on the tin companies.
They pass that on to you.
I put a tax on tin nails because my friends own a aluminum screw factory.
I subsidize aluminum screws because I am invested in their stock.
I use my government organisations to mandate that all new homes be built with aluminum screws and give tax breaks to those builders who use them.
I put a halt on all new tin mining licenses.
Now I have successfully inflated my own personal stock and half of Congress's stock in aluminum while at the same time I put you and the tin workers out of business.
Same thing is happening with gasoline.
Think of me as the Government. You are a carpenter. You use tin nails.
I put a tax on the tin companies.
They pass that on to you.
I put a tax on tin nails because my friends own a aluminum screw factory.
I subsidize aluminum screws because I am invested in their stock.
I use my government organisations to mandate that all new homes be built with aluminum screws and give tax breaks to those builders who use them.
I put a halt on all new tin mining licenses.
Now I have successfully inflated my own personal stock and half of Congress's stock in aluminum while at the same time I put you and the tin workers out of business.
Same thing is happening with gasoline.
y5mgisi
1 ton status
Its a bummer. Its hard to wrap the mid around a countrys leaders being so corrupt.
The problem is that people still don't care that much about fuel economy, if that is a problem. What we need for economy is a lighter truck with a smaller engine. Weight is a compounding factor, after all. As weight creeps up from engine size, brakes, etc., you keep adding weight for chassis strength, braking power, etc. But the vehicles get tailored to the new car market because money talks. Sure that W/T model with V6 and manual can get 23MPG, but my buddy Joe has 18-way leather seats, navigation and 6-screen video. So I need to add all that weight to mine. Plus, I don't want to be a pansy at the stoplight wars so I need the big HP I will use for 0.5% of my driving. So my powerful, plush truck with 20" rims only gets 16MPG when I know those losers in Detroit can make a truck that gets 23. What is wrong with them?
We've made lighter more powerful trucks for decades...yet the price of gasoline has outpaced any increases in mileage...and will continue to do so.
We've reached the point where the cost just isn't worth the savings...like driving 100 miles to the other store to save $1.oo
What we need is for Government to get the hell out of the way and out of our pockets.
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
Just like the electric companies, we come out with and everybody uses CFL's to reduce energy usage, lowering personal electric bill costs,,, like I did, and the electric company just raises rates a little bit every year to compensate...
Same with vehicles, the more economical they run with fuel, the higher the oil companies are going to raise prices to make up for the difference, aside from the corruption that is.. :-P
Same with vehicles, the more economical they run with fuel, the higher the oil companies are going to raise prices to make up for the difference, aside from the corruption that is.. :-P
LOOK DAMMIT, all I want to know is how hard would it be to drop in a newer 4.3l into my 2001 s10.
I think most of them are just too stupid to make the obvious connections. I do think there's a lot of people in congress with good intentions. Sure, reducing pollution seems like a good idea, and if it were as simple as many of them think it is, then putting tax x, y, or z on there does seem like a good idea. The problem is, it's more complex than they are aware of because they don't have a damn clue about how the free market functions.
Are a lot of them corrupt? Hell yes.
Everyone needs to understand that oil companies have nothing to do with the price of oil. Oil prices are set on the market and are sold as futures. So all the nervous investors buy up the cheap oil artificially driving up the price. Only now that gas is over $3+ per gallon allows the oil companies to use unconventional means of extracting oil such as fracking and tar sands which are much more expensive and are now profitable because of the price per gallon.
A lot of people blame the EPA for making diesel more expensive than gas. FALSE. Look on the commodities market, diesel is trading lower than gas. The reason why its more expensive at the pump is all because of TAXES. You can thank big brother for trying to profit off of the trucking industry every time you buy diesel at a premium price.
A lot of people blame the EPA for making diesel more expensive than gas. FALSE. Look on the commodities market, diesel is trading lower than gas. The reason why its more expensive at the pump is all because of TAXES. You can thank big brother for trying to profit off of the trucking industry every time you buy diesel at a premium price.
