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205 tcase part info please?

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i am getting ready to reman a 205 with the shifter switch for the 4x4 light in the tcase. my switch is broken. anyone know were i can get a new one? thanks.
 
What year?

Unsure if there are differences (these are a two prong weatherpack IIRC), but I bought a couple for my '91 case from GM a year or two back, if you think that will work, I can dig up the part number for you.
 
What year?

Unsure if there are differences (these are a two prong weatherpack IIRC), but I bought a couple for my '91 case from GM a year or two back, if you think that will work, I can dig up the part number for you.
I've never seen a weatherpack style. Can you post a picture?.
 
I'll have to find it. Odd, they won't fit in my K5 without cutting the prongs off of the connector (which is why I'm sure its weatherpack) since it's too tall to fit the connector between the floor and case, even though it's not clocked. I'll see if I can find some pics, or the switches. I just moved so I've got a lot of stuff boxed up.
 
Sorry to bring this up for a hijack, but here's the link to the pics. Yeah, I didn't want to take it out of the bag.

http://community.webshots.com/album/570591788PEqGGt

I really don't know if this will work on the older 205's or not. Part number is 15594176, still available from GM about a year ago. I still haven't gotten the light to work right, but the gasket that seals the switch to the housing is apparently critical to setting when the light comes on/goes off.

Unless the cases are different, this switch should work in an older case, as the passenger side shift rail part number is the same.
 
I have built a bunch of 205's and the ones that use a 4WD indicator light have a different shift rail. I thought it would be a neat idea to keep my indicator light when i install my doubler and thought it would be as easy as just installing the switch but i found out otherwise.
 
I have built a bunch of 205's and the ones that use a 4WD indicator light have a different shift rail. I thought it would be a neat idea to keep my indicator light when i install my doubler and thought it would be as easy as just installing the switch but i found out otherwise.

On an old thread someone posted the part number for a 70's rail, and it's the same for the late 80's 205's. Perhaps they updated the rail itself, without changing the part number. Would seem to cause problems though, if the detents are different.
 
On an old thread someone posted the part number for a 70's rail, and it's the same for the late 80's 205's. Perhaps they updated the rail itself, without changing the part number. Would seem to cause problems though, if the detents are different.

I was thinking that might be what GM did. I will see if i can find both rails and snap a pic of both of them side by side. The detents are the same if i remember correctly but there is an additional detent as well.
 
I was thinking that might be what GM did. I will see if i can find both rails and snap a pic of both of them side by side. The detents are the same if i remember correctly but there is an additional detent as well.

An additional detent?? I know on mine there were 3, but I'm not sure that I've got any case that's so old it wasn't designed for a switch of one sort or another. It's odd, even in the current truck it doesn't work like I'd think it to...the switching seems to be very finicky about travel, when the actual movement from the detent is relatively large. I know part of it is the gasket (tried to re-use the worn out one that was on there) but with the case in the vehicle, it is VERY hard to get the switch in and out, at least on mine. I assume that must be from the difference in 1 ton to 1/2 ton frame height...the body ALMOST hits the top of the male side of the connector.
 
I can confine that the shift rails are different. When I rebuilt my 205, I also used parts from a older 205. The newer shift rail had a swallower depression for a detent. The newer case had the shift indicator switch.
I installed the older shift rail in transfer case because I twin sticked it and I didn’t want to hunt for neutral for the front range.
For a older shift rail the center detent would be as deep as the other two
Sorry, I don't have an older shift rail on hand for to compare to this "newer" shift rail.

shift rail.jpg
 
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That's it, center detent not as deep as the earlier non 4WD light shift rail.
 
Wow, with that shallow of a detent, it's no wonder that switch is so finicky. Definitely going to take some work to get it to switch when it should, and not vibrate the light back on.
 
I can confine that the shift rails are different. When I rebuilt my 205, I also used parts from a older 205. The newer shift rail had a swallower depression for a detent. The newer case had the shift indicator switch.
I installed the older shift rail in transfer case because I twin sticked it and I didn’t want to hunt for neutral for the front range.
For a older shift rail the center detent would be as deep as the other two
Sorry, I don't have an older shift rail on hand for to compare to this "newer" shift rail.

Great thread!

1. Does the switch complete the circuit when the push button is fully closed or open?

2. At the detent should the switch be a open or closed circuit?

3. So the problem with the old rail is that the detent is too deap for the switch to be open or closed?

4. I'm not able to see the photo. Maybe these questions are explained in the photo.

5. Can a switch be used with an older non-indicator light rail? Does the rail need modification or could other tweeks be done (like with the gasket)?
 
Great thread!

1. Does the switch complete the circuit when the push button is fully closed or open?
Well, the detent has to "fall" in to the deeper detents for the light to work, so I have to say the circuit is complete when the switch is out.

2. At the detent should the switch be a open or closed circuit?
In the deeper detents, the switch should be closed.

3. So the problem with the old rail is that the detent is too deap for the switch to be open or closed?
Yes, the only time the light will go out is when you are between ranges.

4. I'm not able to see the photo. Maybe these questions are explained in the photo.
Not much to see, the center detent is not as deep.

5. Can a switch be used with an older non-indicator light rail? Does the rail need modification or could other tweeks be done (like with the gasket)?
The only way you can use the older rail is to fill the center detent somehow.

Hopes that helps.
 
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