231 Doubler

[Masiony]

Cool thanks for the pics and info.


Got any more??

tons, what do you want? i got a build thread around here somewhere (that hasnt been updated in a while), just look for my name if you want more pics. for more info just ask away.

 

[BGKYK5]

Will do. I'd like to do this someday, and I'm sure I'll have a million questions when I finally get around to it.

 

[Masiony]

Will do. I'd like to do this someday, and I'm sure I'll have a million questions when I finally get around to it.

well, i will probably soon become quite the expert on s10 related 4x4 questions. i built my business around that platform, and i have a tendency to remember ever thing i read.

 

[bigjbear]

Anyone know if he makes the adapter to go from a 241 to "figure 8" 205?

I'm starting to think my original idea of a 203 into a 241 would be a lot eaiser. Either that or go with the NWF Black Box.

 

[Hossbaby50]

Anyone know if he makes the adapter to go from a 241 to "figure 8" 205?

I'm starting to think my original idea of a 203 into a 241 would be a lot eaiser. Either that or go with the NWF Black Box.

If you are trying to bolt a fig 8 203 to a 6 round like a 241/208 I think you just drill & tap the face of the 203 for the 6 bolt pattern and bolt it up that way.

Harley

 

[bigjbear]

No, I want to do the d.d.machine 241 range box into a figure 8 205.



I was just thinking I should have stuck with my 203 to 241 plan from a couple years ago. http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141436&highlight=doubler

 

[BGKYK5]

IIRC DD Machine only supplies adapters for the round pattern.

 

[bigjbear]

I kind of figured that. I've the "worst" 205 made: 27 spline, figure 8, with a slip yoke out-put. Oh well, at least it was stock.

 

[Masiony]

you could go 203/241 no problems, dont most the 203/205 doublers want the 32 spline 6 round 205? you could just swap the 241 in its place, it (can be) 32 spline, and its 6 round. as for the 241/205 you would have to figure that one out, when you put a 205 behind this doubler, you have to clearance the clocking ring for the inside shift rail of the 205. you're on your own as far as the figure 8 thing though, the shaft that d&d supplies is not long enough to run a spacer to convert it to figure 8.

btw, the NW fab's black box is basically the same as a klune v, basically the same as a 231 doubler. its the same gear set, just a different package.

 

[guz71]

I am sort of spinning my wheels hear because I have never seen of delt with one of the 231 doublers from DD machines, but it seems to be relatively thin compared to a typical 203/205 doubler (the adapator plate between the cases). The space between the two cases is significantly wider than say the DD machine doubler kit and even it has a groove milled into it for the rear output shift rail on the 205. Even with that groove, the clearence is very close when shifted into high range. So I dont think it would possible to shift the rear output with that setup. Thats just my guess though, I would like to know the answer though.

 

[Masiony]

I am sort of spinning my wheels hear because I have never seen of delt with one of the 231 doublers from DD machines, but it seems to be relatively thin compared to a typical 203/205 doubler (the adapator plate between the cases). The space between the two cases is significantly wider than say the DD machine doubler kit and even it has a groove milled into it for the rear output shift rail on the 205. Even with that groove, the clearence is very close when shifted into high range. So I dont think it would possible to shift the rear output with that setup. Thats just my guess though, I would like to know the answer though.

that is the big problem with putting a 205 behind the 231/241. the adapter is roughly 1" thick, but its aluminum. its designed to be compact, if i SYE'd my 241 my doubler setup would be about the same overall length as my stock slip yoked 231.

 

[BGKYK5]

I am sort of spinning my wheels hear because I have never seen of delt with one of the 231 doublers from DD machines, but it seems to be relatively thin compared to a typical 203/205 doubler (the adapator plate between the cases). The space between the two cases is significantly wider than say the DD machine doubler kit and even it has a groove milled into it for the rear output shift rail on the 205. Even with that groove, the clearence is very close when shifted into high range. So I dont think it would possible to shift the rear output with that setup. Thats just my guess though, I would like to know the answer though.

Donno exactly how it works, but they say you can shift from the rear of the 205.

 

[guz71]

From what I have seen on that, people setup the shifters behind the cases and push pull the shift rail from behind. That wouldnt do anything for the clearence issue, if thats what they are talking about.

 

[BGKYK5]

That would allow you to trim off the front of the rail......maybe

 

[jcg]

There's a couple threads around Pirate about rear shifting 205's. The basic jist of it is to make shift rails that extend out the back of the case and connect your linkages there.

I've got plans for a 208/205 doubler so I've been researching this same subject too. One idea I have is to machine a window in the top of the 205 over the rear output shift fork and connect the linkage directly to it. I'm not sure if it will work though, and I don't know if I want to risk destroying my only 205 to figure it out.

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

Here is a link to one way to shift a 205 from the rear.

And a link to some cheap cable shifters.

 

[k5 krawler 50]

hey 38377k5, have you got a hold of duffy yet? Any plans to proceed with this doubler?

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

hey 38377k5, have you got a hold of duffy yet? Any plans to proceed with this doubler?

I actually haven't tried to contact Duffy yet because I've decided to put a few other things inline ahead of the doubler.

I am still strongly considering the 231/205.

 

[k5 krawler 50]

cool, cool.. well, looking forward to seeing it get underway

 

[muddermilitia]

Here is a link to one way to shift a 205 from the rear.

And a link to some cheap cable shifters.

That's freakin awesome! Thank you for posting that, now I know how I'm shifting my t-case. I was checking out that link for the cables, is a 3" stroke needed or a 4" stroke?