CK5
Register an account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members.

292 straight 6

COCHEV

1/2 ton status
Joined
Jul 9, 2002
Posts
4,054
Reaction score
5
Location
Washougal WA
Would this be stepping backwards from a tired, over emissioned 80s 350?

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/3771160223.html

There are some old threads on here about these motors. Nice and torky, decent mileage? :dunno: I don't need a powerhouse for what I do right now.

My burb is pretty much the urban suburban. 90% city driving. sm465, 3.73, soon to have 35s...
 
They're good motors, but unless I got a hold of one for free, and never needed to go above 60mph, I don't think I would bother. Especially with 3.73s and 35s in a suburban.

But if you do it, post pics!

.
 
They're good motors, but unless I got a hold of one for free, and never needed to go above 60mph, I don't think I would bother. Especially with 3.73s and 35s in a suburban.

But if you do it, post pics!

.


Agreed, not much in the power department, and fuel savings would likely be offset by having to work it harder to maintain speed. IIRC, those were set up to run lean for emissions, and many spark-knocked themselves to death, but I could be mistaken.
 
This swap is something I have considered many times.
What always changes my mind is everybody says mpg will be no better than a 350.

Alot of years ago, I put a 300/6 in a ford pickup. It ended up with a 500 edelbrock and a header on it.
Power up top felt good (like a 4v 302) but power down low was still much better than a v8. It got good mpg also.

I cant imagine a 292 would be much different.
 
Power down low would be all I would want.

My old man had a 300 straight 6 in his f150 and that thing ran forever. It rattle and shook and leaked oil like mad, but refused to die. It had plenty of poop to it too for what it was. He had a manual trans behind it too
 
when I say power up top, i mean 3k or more rpm.

I think it would be a neat swap for an old 4 gear burb.
The swap I have been kicking around is 292 into our family car burb (91 v1500 700r4) and keeping the injection. It would seem to me that mpg putting around could be much better than the 350?

Does your burb have 3.73 and 35s? I dont think that gearing would cut it, but maybe.
 
I have 3.73 and 33s right now but I am doing 2.5" lift and 35s. I don't think it will be too bad. Especially around town. Highway RPMs would be nice too.

Would love to add fuel injection as well. Thinking of doing that regardless of motor choice
 
Would this be stepping backwards from a tired, over emissioned 80s 350?

http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/pts/3771160223.html

There are some old threads on here about these motors. Nice and torky, decent mileage? :dunno: I don't need a powerhouse for what I do right now.

My burb is pretty much the urban suburban. 90% city driving. sm465, 3.73, soon to have 35s...

I had the 250 straight six in my 81 and swapped an "emmissions free" 350 into it and wish I never had. The 350 had nowhere near the bottom end the six had, it was geared so low with 3.73's and 31's that it wouldn't go above 65 with either motor. It also had the 4-speed trans as well. I think the 292 in a burb would be way awesome. Go for it.
 
The 292 is probably GM's "best" straight six,not counting older ones like the 235,261,and 302 GMC straight sixes they had in the 50's and very early 60's...the 292 makes its highest torque at 1600 rpm,lower than even a diesel like a 6.2 does...you can lug one down to 15 mph in high gear and step on the gas ,and it'll pull like crazy with no bucking or pinging...if you want low rpm rock crawling ,snow pushing torque,you'll like a 292..they used them in C-60's and busses back in the 60's and 70's,proving they can hold up under heavy useage...

The straight sixes with the "bad" reputation for spark knocking themselves to death were the post '75 250's that had the "integral head" design,and the 2 bbl versions were probably the worst..I had three of those engines,one was a 1975 one bbl carb version that pinged constantly and was herky-jerky around 35-40 mph,never could get the surge out of that one bbl carb,even after messing with the APT screw,(though it did improve some)...that one eventually stripped the cam gear teeth off,so rather than fix it,I swapped in a 307 V8 I had from a '71 Burb 4x4 I parted out...with a '75 Vega saginaw 4 speed behind it (was a 2wd K5)..

The other two 250's I had were a '79 and a '81 in a C10 and my 81 G-10 van,both ran good,but were pretty gutless,and I tried putting a Edelbrock on the '79,but the secondaries made it go slower and bog ,not run better!--I ended up removing the linkage so it was running only off the primary barrels..it ran better that way than with the POS Rochester E2SE carb,(I made a home brewed carb adapter to make it bolt to the intake)...but the engine had pinged for 100K with the original setup,and at 117K,the #6 piston gave up,the top lands came off,exposing the rings,and the cylinder didnt like the peices getting crammed between the piston and cylinder walls...I put a '86 305 V8 in that truck,mostly because I could not FIND another straight six here anywhere...people toss them away when they yank one out of an old car or truck here...

My van I decided was too slow and dangerous with a 250 in it,so I pulled it out and swapped in a 307 V8 from a '73 Malibu...bad choice,that was the last year for those engines,and the first with EGR...was rated at a whopping 115 HP,the six I removed was rated at 130,and though the V8 had more tourqe,it sure dont FEEL like it does,especially after I had to put a used diff with 2.73's in it when the original one with 3.08 gears wiped the diff case out...it'll go 78 mph in second gear now,but takes a mile to get there (still better than the 53 mph with the six and 3.08's,but not much!)...it gets less mpg's than the 250 did too,but at least it can get out of its own way better...looking back,I think I should have just left the 250 in it and lived with it,it was a lot of work for little gain,really.:doah:

Be aware the 292's have different locations for the engine mount on the passenger side,the block is higher and differs from a 250,the fuel pump and distributor swapped places,and you'll need that bracket off a 292 truck to bolt to your frame in order to bolt a 292 in it...other than that its a simple swap...

I like straight sixes,very simple,easy to work on,and hardly ever NEED work,if you give one any kind of care...the 292's aren't known for great gas mileage though,15 mpg would be the most ,I bet 12 would be more likely with low gearing..maybe you can put big tires on the truck seeing the 292 will pull at low rpms,the closer to the 1600 rpm maximum torque speed you can keep it at cruising speed,the better mileage you'll get...
 
They are rated at more tq than most 350s. I knew a guy that went to one and wasn't happy with the mpg or power. I wouldn't pull one till it died but Idk about swapping one in.
 
Top Bottom