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2nd gen 14 bolt ff disc brake and wms woes

wetoolowdingbangow

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Ok guys ive made a wonderful discovery tonight. Upon bolting on the ruffstuff srw and putting my assembled hubs on I found a major clearance issue. theres no way the bracket will work with my hubs.

I was unaware that there was such a thing as a 2nd gen 14 bolt. It's got all the ribbing on the pumpkin and it was what appeared to be the slide off drums. Apparently I cant switch hubs due to the bearings being closer together.

So now that its sitting under my truck I need to roll with the punches. Although I have the bolt on disc brake adapters that have the bend for 1st gen srw im thinking I can make them work but would like some opinions.

Being that the adapters are the same diameter as the axle tube I could cut the adapters to fit the tube and weld them on. Not sure if thats ok being that they have the bend in them? maybe ill just order weld on ones from ruffstuff.

Next issue is that my bastard axle is 65.5 inches wms. Based off rough measurements I may run into trouble with inner fender rub. I guess I may need wheel spacers even though im not a fan of them. I have dually studs so I would have to cut them down to be below wheel spacers right?
 
ran in to the different spindle length problem years ago and posted it on here . :popcorn:

not much support for them out there .

I don't see why you cant cut them and bolt it all together and weld them on the tube . :dunno:

wheel spacers I have drw axle now with 3" per side as its a c&c axle and I wanted wider . didn't have to cut the studs .
 
Yeah that's what I've read but the hubs are flat as can be. The discs are on already on this point. I think I'll have to get the weld on brackets. I also think I'll need some wheel spacers to keep the tire off the inner wheel well with my narrower 65.5 wms
 
to bad your not close I have a van width newer pop off drum style 14ff with disk brakes on it already . . . . :doah:
 
So I bought new ruffstuff weld on brake adapters. I think I have that issue fixed. Now were on to the the issue of wheel spacers. Id like to be up to the wms width that a normal 14 bolt is...67 inches, which means I have .75 inches to make up. I could live with 1 inches wheel spacers but it doesnt appear they make the slip on ones in that size. There all those bolt on ones, which get interesting if they loosen up.

So here are the options...

Buy new 1 or 1.5 inch wheel spacers which means ill have to cut down my nice new dually studs with a cutoff wheel.

I could also get .5 inch loose wheel spacers that just ride on the studs. Id still be .25 inches off on both sides for wms width. maybe no big deal? I havent seen any spacers .75 inches thick...is it a no no to stitch weld a .25 and a .5 together?

Anyone with wheel spacer experience chime in.
 
Assuming you have enough thread length why not just run some 1/2" spacers that slide over the existing studs? Is the extra 1/4" really that crucial?
 
skunked said:
Assuming you have enough thread length why not just run some 1/2" spacers that slide over the existing studs? Is the extra 1/4" really that crucial?
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Im honestly not sure but I have 3.5 inch back space wheels so I think itll work out. I'm getting the slip on style like you mentioned. If I need .75 down the road ill make them at work.
 
wetoolowdingbangow said:
Im honestly not sure but I have 3.5 inch back space wheels so I think itll work out. I'm getting the slip on style like you mentioned. If I need .75 down the road ill make them at work.
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I ran 3/8" on my drag car with ARP wheel studs for years without any issues. If they're AL make sure you re-torque them after a few miles.
 
So i haven't ordered the slide on ones yet because i started thinking more about the wms on this axle. Im wondering if the 65.5" measurement is with the slide on drums? They technically would be the wms. My tape measure says the real wms width on the hubs is 64.5", which means i actually have 2.5" over all to make up.

I guess i should bolt up the wheels and check things out before i get to crazy...
 
ever get a final wms to wms with the rotors on the back? im in the same situation as you.. got this darn 14bolt free with my dana 44 hp for my solid axle swap.. supposedly my front wms is 67" so im trying to be very close..
 
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