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350 motor question

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this is a stupid question but i dont know anything about building motors so il just ask. can a throw diffrent heads on my motor with out changing pistons or anything else. will i need to change the intake manifold? how can i buy the right heads for my motor? do i use the block #'s or is will any chevy 350 heads work? same with the intake manifild will any work? thanks
 
Different heads have a different combustion chamber size (usually measured in cc's) and that will affect your compression ratio (and hence, whether you can use regular gas or if you're forced to use methanol, etc.).

Most small blocks can swap heads and intake manifolds. Beware that 400's use heads that have special steam holes in them to accomodate their siamese cylinder cooling system. Swapping other SBC heads onto a 400 without drilling these holes will cause it to immediately overheat.

Also, the smaller motors (305, for instance) had heads that don't flow very well and, while they will bolt up to a larger small block, will choke the hell out of a larger motor.



In '96 GM switched to their "Vortec" series of motors and made a bunch of improvements, for instance better (reusable) intake and valve covers gaskets. The cylinder heads were also more efficient and made much better power than their predecessors. Any motor that uses the vortec heads requires a vortec specific intake manifold along with centerbolt valve covers (which began in the late 80's, again because they seal much better than the previous design).


The LT and LS series motors are a whole different deal, but I assume that's not what we're talking about here.





Ok, ultimately, tell us what motor you have and what you're thinking about doing with it ;)
 
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Listen to the LT line at the end of the above post . If someone tries to sell you aluminum heads for a 350 , make sure they are not LT1 or LT4 heads , those are reverse cooling heads and don't work on regular cooling smallblocks .

LS , well they won't bolt up at all , different motors , only common thing is they are pushrod motors , but nothing fits older smallblocks except the transmission attached to it :)
 
i have a chevy 350 engine out of s 86 burb. im looking to throw some large oval ported heads on to increase horse power. and i want to put a diffrent intake manifold on becuase i want to run a carb insted of the TBI thats on it.
 
ok well i see something that bothers me right there.... oval port, and rectangle port heads, are big block heads. not small block heads. Completely different engines.

As stated the most common swap would be a set of vortec heads, especially if youre planning on buying a new manifold anyway to run a carb, youd just need to get the vortec specific one.

although may i ask why youre ditching the TBI??? most guys doing alot of offroading see the TBI as an upgrade. better throttle responce, better fuel economy, more reliable, adapts to changing conditions such as elevation and weather better. Personally, i think a TBI Vortec combo would be pretty sweet.

major thing to remember is as was stated different combustion chambers mean different compression ratio's. Just as an example, the 1992 350 had two compressions depending on model. the 1500 got a 9.3:1 compression (210hp) the 2500 got a 8.6:1 compression (190hp). Ill assume you have the 1500, and go with that.

cylinder displacement - 716.93 cc's
gasket area (assuming .045in compressed thickness) - 9.73 cc's
piston dish (assumed but common) - 20 cc's

for a 9.3:1 compression this numbers seem to indicate a 58cc chamber.... so i think im screwing something up here. For an 86 motor they should be a 64 cc chamber... maybe the piston dish is 15 cc's. In which case, the vortecs would be a direct bolt on, without changing your compression.

although all this is based on assumption, the best policy is to actually cc the chambers of your existing heads and go from there.
 
although may i ask why youre ditching the TBI??? most guys doing alot of offroading see the TBI as an upgrade. better throttle responce, better fuel economy, more reliable, adapts to changing conditions such as elevation and weather better. Personally, i think a TBI Vortec combo would be pretty sweet
yea i agree TBI is sweet for wheeling, but this is for my firebird. thanks for the help
 
ok whoa whoa again, this is important information here.

If you want real advice, you need to spell out exactly what it is youre looking to do.

reason for this, depending on the year of the firebird, vortec heads wont work. early firebirds used pontiac motors, which were different from chevy motors, i dont believe they were the same until the third gen (82-92), or maybe half way through the second gen body style (70-81).
 
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