360 Industrial Ford Engine???

[kgillyk5]

I'm looking at a dump truck and it has a factory rebuilt 360 Industrial Ford Engine. This is in a 5yard dump. Anyone have experience with this beast?

Will be used to haul gravel from quarry to my place for a 400' driveway and some clean fill for landscaping then probobly sell it.

Thanks.

 

[boz42]

what are you wanting to know? Those engines are tough, but anorexic.

 

[bigblock72]

Nothing special about the industrial engines, just a couple of minor differences. Probably has a 5 speed trans, basicly all similar to a regular light truck. Wouldn't it be cheaper to pay someone to haul the gravel for you than spend money buying, licensing, fixing, insuring, maintaining and selling a truck?
Although it would be nice to have a big truck kicking around for yard work and the trips to the dump.

 

[4X4HIGH]

First off if it is an industrial engine it will be a 361. There are a few differences between it and a passenger car/light truck 360 such as a STEEL crank with a much LARGER crank snout. Also the heads use sodium filled valves and also use different intake manifolds and exhaust manifolds.

The race care people are always looking for the cranks out of those engines since they are steel. Those are the ONLY FE block engines with steel cranks. The racers have the crank snout machined down to the normal passenger car/light truck diameter then install them in a standard 360/390 block.

 

[3 on the tree]

First off if it is an industrial engine it will be a 361. There are a few differences between it and a passenger car/light truck 360 such as a STEEL crank with a much LARGER crank snout. Also the heads use sodium filled valves and also use different intake manifolds and exhaust manifolds.

The race care people are always looking for the cranks out of those engines since they are steel. Those are the ONLY Y block engines with steel cranks. The racers have the crank snout machined down to the normal passenger car/light truck diameter then install them in a standard 360/390 block.

Correction sir. The "Y" Block was the 239,272,292, 312 series. Soem of these also had steel cranks. The 361 is a member of the FE series. There is also a 391 industrial engine. Ford also made a 377 industrial engine, which was an oddball "M" series engine. The 361 and 391 use specific, unique flywheels, due to the steel cranks.

 

[4X4HIGH]

Correction sir. The "Y" Block was the 239,272,292, 312 series. Soem of these also had steel cranks. The 361 is a member of the FE series. There is also a 391 industrial engine. Ford also made a 377 industrial engine, which was an oddball "M" series engine. The 361 and 391 use specific, unique flywheels, due to the steel cranks.

Yes, give me my lashings. I meant FE engine but had Y block on my mind since i just finished building one at work today.

Ford made a 330, 359, 361, 389, and also a 391 FE industrial engine.

 

[kgillyk5]

Thanks guys...how do I tell the 360 from the 361 industrial? This guy says it's a new factory re-built 360 industrial engine. If I'm reading this right your saying the 360 was not an industrial engine and he has his info wrong or maybe he has a 361 ind and just mis-quoted himself.

How do I determine which engine this is and how much more $$$ value is there in the 361 ind compared to the regular 360. I'm trying to get the price down from his 4K asking price.

 

[4X4HIGH]

I can't remember exactly how to exhaust bolt pattern is layed out on the 361 but the 360 has 2 bolts per port directly over each other.

 

[kgillyk5]

Thanks...I'll see what happens.

 

[Speedo]

The 361-391 engine used heads with heat riser passages in the head and the 360-390 didn't this is the reason for the different intake and exhaust manifolds. The industrial engines were external balance and the regular duty weren't so they needed a different flywheel even though the bolt pattern was the same. The crank snout was larger so you had to use the proper damper assy. The industrial engines also used a larger oil pump drive 3/8" hex compared to 5/16" hex on the standard engines, IIRC, so there were different distributors also. If it still had the original carb they were a special (expensive) Holley with a gov built in. Enough differences to make swapping them a pain.

Gus

 

[35dp]

It would definetly be cheaper to have the stuff hauled in by someone else, by the time you pay for the truck, license, inspection (if it will pass), insurance, gas, repairs to the truck because something always go's wrong, and then cant sell it for what you paid for it, you have already paid more than a landcsaper would charge to do it for you. If you must do it yourself just buy a trailer. i cant believe more people have'nt chimed in and said this. as far as the gravel goes the dump truck drivers can half ass spread it for you as they dump, then just level it out with a tractor or rake. if you dont have a tractor rent one for a weekend im sure you will find other uses for it. then for the rest of your yard work it sounds to me like a regular pickup will handle it.

Dustin