All the previous times I've driven/played with a manual tranny, I've always felt 4-lo/3rd was the best range for most types of off roading. I always liked leaving the t-case is low range because if you needed to go lower, you just downshifted. Also gave the best powerband for the RPM's, too. That picture of my old Brown Turd in my avatar, I was playing in that mud hole in 4-lo/3rd all day long. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif