I keep tossing the ideas around. Keep it simple and just work witht he springs. Or go to a coil rear. Back and forth, back and forth. I was hoping to get some pictures of the actual mounting locations people have done on K5s. Not drawings, or what people think will work, etc. Actual in use locations and what you would have done differant. ExcelCAD kicks ass. But, I am a visual person... I like to see what it looks like for real. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif Thanks Ken H.