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44" Ground Hawgs, who's ran em, and what did y'all think?

THRILLBILLY

THRILLBILLY

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I have searched all over the web and on here as to what people thought of one of the originals when it comes to mud tires. I have come across a set of practically new 44's and have no decent answers as to how good of a tire they are. For a mud only with a little bit of street driving, they sound legit but I would like to know what people who has ran them thought of them. Any answers are greatly appreciated!
 
I've never run a set but always heard they lasted forever. Also, Gumbo's and Hawgs both have a reputation for being smaller that their marked size. I have a friend that had some 40" Gumbo's back in the 90's and we were all amazed to see they measured right at 37".
 
For pure mud I prefer a good ol TSL over a Hawg, they were popular to "cut" for comp mudding, but the boggers seem to have taken over there as well. They do wear like iron, and flat spot like other big tires, I had a set of 40's years ago and they also seemed to like to chase cracks in the road more then a swamper does.
 
Yeah the loud, flat spot, smaller running sizes I knew about. My gumbos are just like all of those. And the crack chasing is ridiculous now with em too! . One thing that gets my attention is that y'all say they wear good on the road. I'd love a bogger, but with the driving I do now I just can't bring myself to ruin them like that. A old ground hawg or gumbo like I have now doesn't bother me to get on the road.

As far as the directional tread what have your experiences been with it? I heard that it doesn't matter, they still pulled both ways.? :dunno:
 
Personally I think Ground hawgs are utter junk. A tire with alot of street life is a good thing but at some point you have to draw the line when they are so god damn hard.

Any TSL tire will outperform them. If you want a good long lasting tire go with TSL radials.
 
I went ahead and bought the tires i just couldnt pass up the deal I got on them. So I came home swapped my axles, put the new tires and wheels on, now a dumb question...

What PSI should I run in them being a 16.5 wheel, and seeing street and mud???
 
I would run recommended sidewall air pressure on the street, Probally drop it down to 15 psi or so for the mud and offroad situations.
 
As hard as these tires are, you won't want to run more than ~20psi on the road. I run 18 in my 39.5 TSL's and they're perfectly fine, even a tad stiff. I don't even notice the truck squat until 5psi...
 
20 psi max is what I thought. I got 20 in them now and they are hard as a rock. Might try to run 15 and see how that feels on the road. Just never had 16.5s so I don't wanna bust a bead!
 
THRILLBILLY said:
I went ahead and bought the tires i just couldnt pass up the deal I got on them. So I came home swapped my axles, put the new tires and wheels on, now a dumb question...

What PSI should I run in them being a 16.5 wheel, and seeing street and mud???
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post some pics up when you get a chance...

i love my hawgs.... my truck hasnt seen much offroad in the last years due to many reasons.... but when these hawgs go... im buying another pair..

people say they are directional... great for going forward... sorry havent got stuck when i did take it out so no need to test reverse..

my 40" hawgs on 12" wide rims are 38.8" to which NJ only allows 38" on the street anyway...

the newer tires are not made like the old ones... not as hard.. they are a softer compound...

6" front superlift leafs... 40" hawgs

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RootBreaker said:
post some pics up when you get a chance...

i love my hawgs.... my truck hasnt seen much offroad in the last years due to many reasons.... but when these hawgs go... im buying another pair..

people say they are directional... great for going forward... sorry havent got stuck when i did take it out so no need to test reverse..

my 40" hawgs on 12" wide rims are 38.8" to which NJ only allows 38" on the street anyway...

the newer tires are not made like the old ones... not as hard.. they are a softer compound...

6" front superlift leafs... 40" hawgs

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Nice truck man! Up north has some strict lift laws, here in Texas they practically don't care. As long as your tailights aren't more than 72'' off the ground your good to roll whatever! My Hawgs measure 42 3/4" with 20 PSI. I could care less about small running sizes, they are awesome tires in my book. This is the only picture I have of the whole truck at the moment:
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Its gonna be awhile before I get anything else done to mine. I live in an apartment at the moment and getting married is putting a damper on things...
 
tyler__820 said:
I would run recommended sidewall air pressure on the street, Probally drop it down to 15 psi or so for the mud and offroad situations.
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No such thing as "recommended" air pressure on the sidewall. This will be the "maximum" air pressure you should run in the tire without it blowing up. Big difference between what is the right pressure for the tire while on the truck and what the maximum allowable pressure in the tire is.
 
that is correct so many people read over the MAX AIR PRESSURE XX and think its recomended.

i ran 25psi in my 38x12.50x16.5 tsl bias and no problems on street and off road use. rode the best and best tire wear.

figured this out with tire chalk test.
 
sweetk30 said:
that is correct so many people read over the MAX AIR PRESSURE XX and think its recomended.

i ran 25psi in my 38x12.50x16.5 tsl bias and no problems on street and off road use. rode the best and best tire wear.

figured this out with tire chalk test.
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I forgot the chalk test! 20PSI seems pretty good in mine. Not so stiff that it throws you out of the truck. I got them from a guy with a blazer and he had around 25 in them, thought about putting that back in them to see how it felt.
 
6.2Blazer said:
No such thing as "recommended" air pressure on the sidewall. This will be the "maximum" air pressure you should run in the tire without it blowing up. Big difference between what is the right pressure for the tire while on the truck and what the maximum allowable pressure in the tire is.
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Correct. The sidewall pressue is only for use at the sidewall load (max). With less weight on the tire, you can pretty much interpolate, assuming 0lbs-->0psi. So if it says "40psi 3200 lbs" and you have 3200lbs on that axle, your starting point for tire pressure would be 20psi. Some people go above that for improved MPG.
 
Hoggs are still popular here in the mud races. Boggers are more popular, but I think the Hoggs do better than anything but TSLs and Boggers. Think they are to hard for any rock stuff tho.
 
sandypants said:
So what would be the next choice for tires that are near what hawgs were. ag tires? just wondering...
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my list is..

boggers - best mud but fast wear on street
Hawgs - best all around mud/wear - bad on rocks (but i dont prefer this challenge)
tsl/sx - next best tire ok in mud but better than hawgs on rocks
claws - no experience but hear they do good on all and road manners... pffft..

since my truck is not a DD.. bias ply tires will always be under my truck.. fine.. flat spots till they warm up and round out... :whistle:
 
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