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63's rear / 57's front ****New pics 56k beware****

I'm correcting you not to prove a point, but to keep others from being misinformed when they find this thread in the future using that handy dandy search function.

***For the following example we will ignore the fact that the spring has an arch and does slightly grow/shrink the front eye to center pin measurement as it compresses/droops.***

Think of your axle as two halves. Your axle is located with the fixed half of the spring, in this case the front half. For a stock GM 73-91 frontend spring the axle is always located 23.5" from the front eye at ride height. This means the rear 'floating half' (for lack of a better term) of the spring can be long or short and it will not affect your axle location. The shackle angle will be the only effect of a longer or shorter rear spring half.


Now onto the modifications that actually moved your axle forward:
+4.0" Note 1
+1.5" Note 2
- 1.5" Note 3
+4.0" Total the axle moved forward

Note 1: Front spring eye mount moved forward 4". This netted you an honest 4" forward because you moved the fixed mount of the spring forward.
Note 2: Zero Rates moved the centerpin 1.5", effectively decreasing the distance from the pin to the front fixed mount.
Note 3: Stock GM front springs are 23.5" for the front eye to pin measurement. Ford 57's are 25" for this same measurement. Therefore, the Ford springs effectively moved the axle 1.5" FARTHER from the front fixed mount.


All this can be easily demonstrated with a tape measure, your vehicle, and another vehicle with the exact same frame. Find a common landmark on both frames like an identical factory hole. Measure to the axle tube on each vehicle from this same hole. The difference between the two vehicles will be much closer to 4" than 9.75".
Travis
 
hate to bring a post back from the dead but seventyk5 what was your final wheelbase?
and was the front moved up 8'' thats looks sick. i might have to use my 57'' for the front now
 
Oh my gawd, that is awesome!! Thanks for bringing this post back from the dead muddyblzr, otherwise I would have never seen it.
 
57's look good, so how wide are the springs compared to chevy springs? is there any difference? do I need custom bushings for them to work? and I have heard conflicting stuff about the center pin location is it 25 inches and 32 or 25.5 inches and 31.5inches?

I was thinking about using b-52 mounts to help out with shackle angle, what do you think?

:confused:
 
that would work. the springs are 2.5" like chevy's but because of the 25"/32" offset the short side is weaker. the guy said he was going to upgrade to the 3" wide springs once these gave out
 
Sorry Guys I am not on here as much anymore. Too many changes and cant keep on erig I keep getting bored. If there are any questions on that build up let me know I will answer what I can. As of right now I am building an 84 s15 jimmy.

I am using stock s15 rears on the front (54" i believe) with 57's on the rear. So far it works nice. I am debating putting 63's in the rear of this one and putting the 57's up front but we will see. I will put update pics soon.
 
What trucks did the 57's come on so I can research after market ones? I have about a 6.5 inch lift and trying to keep it there so if I'm correct I need about a 2 inch lift spring like the 52's and 56's.
 
stock 57's from a 1970 ford 2wd pick up resulted in about 5.5 to 6" of lift over stock. They come on all ford full size pickups into the 80's. But I believe sometime in the late 70's to early 80 models they changed to 3" wide instead of 2.5". I also believe that all broncos have the 3" wide versions.
 
:eek1::eek1::eek1::eek1::eek1: wow i just scored a set of 57s from a bronco that are 3 inches wide...now i have to get kert to make me some custom parts!!
 

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