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'87 Full Vert desert runner build

Nate___k5

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So, a few months back I bought this 87 that the prior owner had converted to a full convertible with the correct hard top and made a brief intro post. Since then, I have survived the Phoenix summer. I drove it occasionally, but mainly waited for the weather to turn.

This last weekend I finally got it out for a shake down run. We took it from Lake Pleasant to Crown King. It is a run that a stock 4x4 truck could tackle with few issues, but it is a long (@30 mile) run. I managed to reveal a few issues:

1) melted the rear axle bearings
2) the transfer case does not like to be in 4 high, and likes to pop out of 4 low.
3) I cracked the frame at the steering box (yeah new 35" tires)
4) I broke all of the PO's welded exhaust hangers
5) broke (or revealed the broken) transmission mount
6) proved the bent tierod needed to be replaced
7) proved I am addicted to the right pedal of this beast.

So, had it towed to the off road shop (axle bearings are generally required for 80 miles of freeway driving). There I found out that the prior owner never told me about the rear axle. I am pissed! It is a narrowed Dana 60 with a detroit locker with 410 gears and custom chromoly axle shafts. (so, not really pissed...pleased in fact).

This increased value to the rig has made me not care about dumping some cash into the suspension, interior and paint.

Current plan is to have the shop fix all of the above issues while they have it up on a rack. Then back to my shop for upgrades as follows:

1) Suspension: Current plan is custom spring setup from ORD rather than coilover. Any input on this would be appreciated. Figure a budget of @$2,500 for parts. As soon as I get the truck back I will make a final decision and get parts ordered.

2) Interior: Stripping the carpet and putting in LMC truck dyna mat and precut rubber kit. Waterproofing the dash (top is likely never going back on) and diagnosing the inoperable gauges (fuel, amp, oil pressure), and building a series of compartments for trail gear into the "bed sides" before paint

3) Paint: likely going caution orange "bed liner" for all visible painted surfaces. Painter owes me a favor or two, so this will be cheap.

Post here to keep me actually moving forward, and to get input on suspension choices. I know ORD is a sponsor and they also seem to be great people. Is there any option I should be considering ina similar budget? I am looking for a sooth(ish) ride on gravel washboarded roads and good wheel travel for "light" rock crawling (okay, whatever limit there is to light, I will go past that until stuff breaks). I dont yet have crossover steering, but that is on the short list of the next round of mods.

Anything else I should be considering? Truck runs like a beast (other than issues listed above). Help me spend money (wisely??). Thanks in advance.

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Back from the shop. Front axle is a 10 bolt with a locker. Stuff keeps getting better.

Word is I need new shocks, can I upgrade the shocks to the "final" plan without upgrading the springs? Goal is similar final height, just more articulation. Pics to come.
 
Right. But, can I buy them now, and upgrade to order custom springs later?
 
Yes. Your title calls it a desert runner. And you stated that you can not stay off of the skinny pedal. Spend the money on bypasses and air bumps.

Keep an eye out for good used ones. You are in the heart of the desert racing world.
 
Here are some pics of the current suspension and even one of the locker....just because I was happy it was actually there.

I looked into full bypass shocks and that is really more than I want to spend at @$500 per shock (unless I am reading the internet wrong). I think some Bilsteins (5100 or 7100???) will meet my needs. As much as I would like to float across the desert like riding on a cloud, I can slow down for a few $1000 extra in my pocket. Rather than floating across the desert think floating across washboard roads and then mild rock crawling with people in lightly upgraded jeeps.

The real issue I have is this: What size do I get? Like I said above, I am running 35" tires and I am willing to put on whatever custom ORD springs will be best. If I can buy the shocks now, it "should" get me more travel, off the factory bumps, and a better ride until I send some cash to ORD. If I am only buying these once (other than $500/per corner) what size do I spec? Incase you missed it, I am a little new to this stuff.

If there are other pics or measurements that would help, let me know.

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For a go fast rig a 5100 series shock is not enough, it will heat up and fade very quickly. A 7100 series with an external reservoir might be a good option.

These are heavy rigs so the more oil capacity a shock has gives it a better chance of staying cool.

Also with ORD springs you are going to need new custom shock mounts front and rear to take advantage of the travel.

Whatever shocks you end up going with I would consider air bump stops for all 4 corners. They really help smooth out hard hits from washouts or holes that you don't see.
 
With ord springs you will be looking at about 12" of travel so a 2.0x12 or 2.5x12 in any big brand(fox,King, bilstien). You will need custom mounts as those shocks take up some serious space.
 
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