'95-up gear-red. starter?

[roadnotca]

Anybody tried this upgrade, '95 and up permanent magnet, gear reduction starter. I know it also needs a relay. I was just wonderin if anybody has tried it and is it really cool and is the starter probably twice the price?
This would be kinda like the alternator upgrade, SI to CS.
Thanks

 

[sled_dog]

personally they are barely smaller or stronger than a standard old style starter, buying a smaller aftermarket gear reduction for about the same price would be a better.

 

[JIM88K5]

I put one on mine. Bolted right up. Why do you need to add a relay ?

 

[u2slow]

I put one on mine. Bolted right up.

This was my experience also.

 

[roadnotca]

I've read that with a ford solenoid set-up, without relay, the permanent magnet allows the starter to become a generator, it will continue to run after the engine has started.
Otherwise, the only reason to use one of these is if you have tall compression ratio?? The gear reduction is no help with low battery(ies)?
Thanks

 

[chevyk2500hd]

The 95 starters are a direct bolt in. I did this to mine. I also feel they are quite a bit less noisy not that it really matters to me or most people. And yes there are at least double the price. But I got mine for free so I can't complain.

 

[Jagged]

Permanent magnet starters also require less current to start your engine. The older style you were energizing both the stator and rotor. Permanent magnet types you just energize the stator.

 

[roadnotca]

In retrospect, I should have started this as a poll; but it sounds like with a good guy price, or free, its a cool upgrade(?). Otherwise unless we're talking 11:1 monster motor, $200 for a starter is bling.
Thanks guys.