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Zeus33rd

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I never posted these before because the heat and fallout that resulted needed to subside a bit.

The 3rd hole is the one that killed my trans. The first two are the two smaller holes leading up to the 3rd hole. The 4th is the extraction using the M113 medic ambulance.


Even a tbi 454 is alittle under powered for the heavy bitch. :haha:
 
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that poor truck. doesn't look like anyone has been in those holes for a long time.
 
Thats some crazy videos! Did you ever end up flooding the motor in the third vid? It was getting deep!
 
friend told me a long time ago when i first was getting in to big trucks ( NO WATER ITS A MUD TRUCK ) kept that in the back of my mind for years and its worked great. i stay out of standing water and check the depth before going in and i havnt had any major problems yet from WATER :deal:


your mud truck dont like WATER does it. :whistle:

when installing or reman job on old tranny tap out the vent hole if its about 1/8 and install a barb fitting to run a vent hose up to. if not the big 1/8 hole add a small vac/washer line rubber hose to the plastic barb vent and run it up top.

most guys that run holes that deep suck water in the vent on the tranny and water is a BAD thing for the auto tranny.
 
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Trans already rebuilt and ready to go in. Waiting on the new torque converter to show up. Vent hole/tube issue already taken care of.

And no more holes like that for me again...ever. Waaay to damn expensive and waaay to much ass ache. :eek1:
 
Lord, that brings back memories....

You might mention to your buddy, there is not usually any reason to check the temps when you have that much water running through the radiator......

I have been through worse than that, but I was better equipped. My present Ford would have gone through that last hole with 33s.


Once I hooked up the winch!!:D

I guess I'm spoiled. Everything I ever took offroad, over the last 40 years, has had a winch on it.

My old Jeep, PTO Konig. My 79 F150, PTO Braden. My present 89 F250, bigger PTO Braden.
My cousin's 4 or 5 trucks over that period, all had Cox built electrics.

All my other hunting buddies, all had Cox build electrics, a PTO Braden or two, and I think a Hickey Sidewinder thrown in for fun.

Your transmission would still be good, you would not have gotten dinged by the brass, and that day would have been a lot more fun with a good winch.

You may notice a theme here.........

The only other thing I see wrong with the videos, I wasn't there!

Of course second guessing is easy, and even though the videos were very well done, I can't really see what I would need to see.

But, it looked like you might have gotten out if you had dug out behind the rear wheels on your last couple of reverses.
I have no view of the rear, but it looked like the duals were hitting a small hole, log, or bump that was keeping them from clawing you back out.

I can tell you from 40 years of doing just what you were doing, that you were never going to get out forward under your own power.
At least after the first try. The first run, you did good, trying to keep a wheel up high.
And when you stopped, a small amount of help, maybe a short back and forth and you might have made it.

But after the first full back, maybe the second, the camera was moving, so its hard to tell, you had fallen into the deep hole.
Your front chunk was hitting mud, and getting deeper each time.

At that point, you might have gotten out with a couple of trees in the front ruts to get the chunk out of the mud.

But personally, when you were almost out backing up, I would have jammed a couple of trees between the duals with the ends jammed in the mud just under the tires from the rear.
My old Jeep had rear duals, and I used that trick when I was stupid and drove off into something that I did not want to winch farther into.
Usually the duals will walk the trees and come right out.

Oh Yeah, if you have a thermostatic fan clutch, go ahead and get another one. It was not under water as long as mine has been a few times, but they were just not made to blow water.
There is no clutch material to wear out, but the seals usually go after a deep crossing.
I think the pressure builds up when they are trying to move that much load.

Like my father would say when I would come in muddy up to the eyeballs after walking through waist deep mud to hook up the winch, and then finding out that the darn road did not go through so I had to winch back out again...........


Look at all the fun you had!!
 
It has 4.10 gears.

I have a brand new in the box, Ramsey Patriot 12k winch back in Cali. Lot of good it does me 2800 miles away eh? :doah:

My buddy that mentioned the temps is a medic. 'nuff said.

As for all the tips on extracting it....notice at the end my medic buddy said "Joe! Joe!". While he was saying that, he was motioning to his throat with a slashing motion, telling me to kill it. I thought he saw something important that I couldn't see and shut it down right away. Never did figure out what he saw. After I shut it down, it was over, it wouldn't start again. Mud/sand killed the starter. After we got the truck out, I pulled the starter and brought it back to the motor pool. Took it apart and cleaned about 2 cups of sand out of it. :eek1: Put it back together and re-installed it...it was only good for one more start. Never worked again after that. If my buddy hadn't told me to kill it, and if the starter hadn't died, it would have come out with another buddies ram mega cab dually cummins. Dead in the water like it was, the dodge wouldn't even budge it.

And it was right at the end of our alloted hour away from the motor pool for chow. No time for doing any creative, macgyver style stuff to get it out.
 
It has 4.10 gears.

I have a brand new in the box, Ramsey Patriot 12k winch back in Cali. Lot of good it does me 2800 miles away eh? :doah:

My buddy that mentioned the temps is a medic. 'nuff said.

As for all the tips on extracting it....notice at the end my medic buddy said "Joe! Joe!". While he was saying that, he was motioning to his throat with a slashing motion, telling me to kill it. I thought he saw something important that I couldn't see and shut it down right away. Never did figure out what he saw. After I shut it down, it was over, it wouldn't start again. Mud/sand killed the starter. After we got the truck out, I pulled the starter and brought it back to the motor pool. Took it apart and cleaned about 2 cups of sand out of it. :eek1: Put it back together and re-installed it...it was only good for one more start. Never worked again after that. If my buddy hadn't told me to kill it, and if the starter hadn't died, it would have come out with another buddies ram mega cab dually cummins. Dead in the water like it was, the dodge wouldn't even budge it.

And it was right at the end of our alloted hour away from the motor pool for chow. No time for doing any creative, macgyver style stuff to get it out.


It takes alot of torque to push the water like that and the duals are heavy as well especially when you fill the gap between them with muck. Lower gears might help a bit. At any rate, gotta keep the wheel speed up to power through the stuff.

I bet you spend $20 at the car wash easy!! Lot of square footage on the crew cabs. Reminds me of younger days.
 
It takes alot of torque to push the water like that and the duals are heavy as well especially when you fill the gap between them with muck. Lower gears might help a bit. At any rate, gotta keep the wheel speed up to power through the stuff.

I bet you spend $20 at the car wash easy!! Lot of square footage on the crew cabs. Reminds me of younger days.

Probably closer to $40 at the car wash. And another two+ hours laying underneath it with a hose and pressure wand thingy douching the sand out of EVERYTHING. There must have been like 50lbs of the stuff between the gas tank skid plate and the tank on BOTH sides. It was ridiculous. :doah:

The gears are gonna stay. It's gonna get a 12v cummins at some point in it's life. 4.10's and 39" tires should be a pretty good combo with the diesel motor.
 
Probably closer to $40 at the car wash. And another two+ hours laying underneath it with a hose and pressure wand thingy douching the sand out of EVERYTHING. There must have been like 50lbs of the stuff between the gas tank skid plate and the tank on BOTH sides. It was ridiculous. :doah:

The gears are gonna stay. It's gonna get a 12v cummins at some point in it's life. 4.10's and 39" tires should be a pretty good combo with the diesel motor.

That makes sense then. I knew you knew that, just throwing it up for thoroughness sake.

That's what got me out of the mud. All the washing, continous washing. And weeks later still finding a big clump of mud somewhere that has dried into an adobe brick.:haha:
 
That makes sense then. I knew you knew that, just throwing it up for thoroughness sake.

That's what got me out of the mud. All the washing, continous washing. And weeks later still finding a big clump of mud somewhere that has dried into an adobe brick.:haha:

HA! Funny you say that...I spent what I thought was excessive time and effort removing any potential "bricks". But low and behold, about a month and a half later, on the top of the drivers side frame rail, just in front of the rear bumper, I found a brick. :haha:
 
HA! Funny you say that...I spent what I thought was excessive time and effort removing any potential "bricks". But low and behold, about a month and a half later, on the top of the drivers side frame rail, just in front of the rear bumper, I found a brick. :haha:


EXACTLY!! Just when you think you got it clean, you're servicing the trans or something and bop, a brick drops on your head.

It certainly can be fun though. I love the high rpm assaults on the mudhole and the rooster tails, gotta love it.
 
Back when I was running my dual wheeled Jeep, and was young and foolish, I would come home every weekend with tons of swamp mud everywhere.
They had a self serve car wash close by, with the high pressure wand.

One really sticky evening, I hosed so much mud off that it almost high centered when I started to drive off!
Rear chunk actually dragged across the pile.

The guy who ran the thing hated me.

About a year later, I was going turkey hunting about 2 in the morning, and stopped at the traffic light next to the wash.
There was some poor drunk in there and the hose had gotten away from him.

The modern ones have a trigger. Back then, it was just a long steel tube with a nozzle on the end.
When you hit 'go', it came on full pressure.
It had already broken the back window, I think one of the side windows, and every time he tried to get up to turn it off, it would knock him flat.

I was laughing so hard, it was difficult to check for traffic and start to pull over to try to help him out.
Just I started letting out on the clutch, the timer ran out. I had sat through the green, no one coming behind me, so I just waited for the light to change again.

He had picked himself up, staggered a little and kicked the hose.
Shoved some more quarters in, and hit the button again!!

He turned to grab the hose just as he did. I think he thought there was a delay.........but there wasn't.

He was crawling out on his hands and knees as I drove off weaving I was laughing so hard.
Its a wonder a cop did not stop me. I was a couple of miles up the road before I could drive straight.
 
Well that explains the converter posts:laugh:. I have always heard about those big holes at camp and finally got to see some.
 

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