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A Question about Mud

SRLRacing

SRLRacing

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Ok so I was driving around my ranch last night during the rain we got here in southern california yesterday. It was so slippery out that I had to be in Low Loc on my stock np203 and I still had trouble gettiting across the flat portions of my ranch. Then I made the mistake of driving along a portion that I had to tranverse a fairly steep hill, normally not made of mud and easily driven across even in a lowered miata. The mud was so slick when I stopped on the hill I immediatly slid down it. I could not get back across the hill without sliding into my F650 parked at the bottom. Needless to say after like 6 trys I finally got it out without slamming into the Ford but I was wondering what I can do to make it easier on me next time it rains. My transfercase and axles are all stock np203, dana 44, and 12 Bolt. I'm running 32" Maxxis Buckshots and I was wondering if there is a cheap way to improve the driveability in the mud while not affecting it's highway and around town drivability. Any suggestion?
 
Lockers are the next step. If you are running smaller tires, a couple in-carrier style lockers would be a fairly easy install, and would make a world of difference.
 
Yeah I'd go for lockers. It would be a good idea to spend a couple more dollars on the rear one if you drive the truck on the street.

Hey post some pick of that f650 :D
 
ok sounds like a unanimous "buy lockers" vote.
but what about limited slip or posi? I just looked at the prices for lockers and nearly choked!
 
Just floor it! You would be amazed at what a litle (or ALOT) of wheel speed can do for your forward progress in the mud. Not that i recomend this but i am serious. Im not talking about just puting the peddel down a little more, im talking make the motor scream!
 
time for bigger tires.. get boggers while ur at it... :p: i cant be much of a help, wait til the mud spots dries up?? but that will be no fun..
 
haha the tires on there are mudders and I don't want to go much bigger because I don't want to lift the truck and lose what little cornering ability the truck has. and as for flooring it available power was not an issue ;) but yeah I almost just parked the truck there and walk back to the house but I was thinking "this is a mutha F***in Blazer it should be able to get out of here no problem" I can't imagine what my neighbors were thinking as I was trying to get out.... my truck is kinda loud
 
Powertrax NoSlip. You can install it yourself in your driveway.

Limited slips are for sports cars.
 
Yeah but the problem is they've never expanded the line beyond the Japanese, some Ford, and Dana axles. They had so many problems with the Dana 35 axle models that sorta killed their forward momentum a few years ago.

I kept waiting and waiting and waiting for the one for my Ranger's Explorer 8.8" but finally said screw it and got a NoSlip. No complaints.
 
Lock Rights and NoSlips have those teeth on the inner rings. They are what holds the sides together when they're being forced together by the springs and torque. While turning, and if malfunctioning, they are known to sorta "grind their teeth" and thus you get the clicking.

The NoSlip is an update of the Lock Right design and is made of stronger material. I loved mine. I'd definitely spend the money and get a NoSlip over a Lock Right in anything with a V8 (especially 425hp).
 
still... a lot of money for one of those things
I am having a hard time justifying the $450 just so I don't have to concentrate as much when I might find a locker useful
I have yet to get any 4x4 actually stuck to the point where I needed a tow
are limited slips and posi really that bad on trucks?
 
They are if you lift a wheel. Otherwise I think a tight one (like the Eaton one with 800lb springs) would work in a situation you are talking about.

I can't remember the name, so no idea if it's been mentioned already, but the Zexel Torsen is a pretty cool idea, it's essentially a no-clutch limited slip, and a few people here have run them. Again, the ones available for the trucks (or at least some of the diffs) aren't called Zexel's, but you might be able to find the thread where we talked about them. It's been a couple of years I guess.
 
I've heard the Zexel Torsens aren't really up to the abuse of V8's and fullsize rigs. Heard that though.

TracTech's TruTrac is a very similar gear driven limited slip.

The thing is that to install a limited slip you have to disassemble the entire diff. So you have the purchase price ($300+ for any of them last I saw) and then the cost to have your diff taken apart and reassembled. If you know how to set gears than this is less of an issue but a NoSlip or other lunchbox locker can be installed in your driveway with regular tools. I did mine by myself and it was easy.
 
instead of adding anything first try 4HI instead of 4LO. you would be suprised how just that will help.

but yah next step is lockers.
 
Ummm limited slips are more expensive than lockers... You can get a locker for $250 vs a limited slip which is like $400 minimum.

A LS in the rear isnt a bad idea for streetability.
 
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