a RYOKEN question

[Chief Brody]

With the weather starting to get warm enough to do a lot of work on my Blazer, I am quickly approaching the time to prep and paint the bed and floor sections that will be covered by carpet.

Does harbor freight sell a paintgun that is good enough quality to spray those areas?

Also, I know that the prep for paint has to be different than the prep for bedliner...so what is the heaviest grit you would sand the bed area with for paint?

Also, are those bed ridges going to be a pain to paint without getting too much on the peaks and not enough in the valleys?

 

[ryoken]

and first to view it!

what kinda paint? single stage urethane, enamel? in qrtss?

yes, you can be buy the el cheapo's from HF.. they spray "reasonable" but don't expect alot of uses out of em... or any future rebuilding...


grit depends on paint... 280 to 400 for single stage.. 400 to 600 for base or lacquer... and prime any bare spots...

 

[Chief Brody]

It will be a two stage base + clearcoat.

If the Harbor freight sprayers won't give professional results, what do you recommend?

 

[Chief Brody]

oh...and it's FUL-THANE URETHANE SS A/t whatever that means...DuPont Spraybase...

 

[ryoken]

the HF's will get the job done.. spray pattern and atomization may not be the best, but with patience, very good results can be achieved.. as mentioned just recently, i like the devilbiss starting line pair for 125... ya get a 1.4 and 1.8 gun...

you'll need a 1.4 tip for basing.... clear you can use the 1.4.. just need a bit quicker viscosity...

i like a 1.8 tip for clearing, you can really lay it on... but for am's the 1.8 is best left for primers, heavy single stages, etc... if your coating the floor, run the 1.8, so it really douches it...

 

[Chief Brody]

I have a 3HP 11 gallon compressor....is that big enough? and what pressure do you set the regulator to?

 

[79bonanza]

speaking of painting stuff. do you guys thing the duplicolor ready to spray paint from autozone and advanced are any good for getting a good paint job, i know alot of its in the prep but its not like using that paint is like polishing a turd. lol

 

[ryoken]

interior stuff, yeah.. ya may need to let it catch up here and there a bit... this is where an inline aux tank helps a ton..

i run strictly adjustables at the gun... i run full pressure out of my desiccant filter /compressor... for spray guns i have graduated regulators i use at the gun.. some have a little gauge, some don't... anyway... base likes about 25 to 30 psi... clear, 35 to 45.. all of that does vary a bit with viscosity's, spray techniques, etc, depending on what kinda finish your trying to achieve..

here's a quickie from my collision days... my boss and I both knew how all the car companies finishes where, and the best spray techniques to use for different cars, Ford? thicker paint, higher pressure, etc... Mercedes? med mix, high pressure, fast hand... etc, etc..

 

[Chief Brody]

depending on what kinda finish your trying to achieve..

I know that the paint is different today than what came stock on a 1974....but I want a factory "show room" (not "show car") finish...I ultimately want a finish that looks as good as it did when it rolled off the factory floor...

 

[ryoken]

well, yeah, it was single stage enamel... base/clear is what you want... just pm me when ya start getting set up and need last minute spray tip, etc...

 

[ryoken]

speaking of painting stuff. do you guys thing the duplicolor ready to spray paint from autozone and advanced are any good for getting a good paint job, i know alot of its in the prep but its not like using that paint is like polishing a turd. lol

it's overpriced lacquer... a chimp can spray it, then it oxidizes under the car cover.....

actually, overpriced might not be fair, i haven't checked their pricing, and in recent yrs, lacquer went thru the roof price-wise, so it may be in line...

 

[79bonanza]

it's overpriced lacquer... a chimp can spray it, then it oxidizes under the car cover....

are you saying it rust threw the paint quick, i think im misunderstanding you or something

 

[ryoken]

it was mostly a joke...

it's lacquer, a very non-durable, easy to spray paint... it wont necessarily let it rust faster, only because it'll chip, scratch easier... it doesn't absorb water the way a lacquer primer does...

it's amazing what a little marketing can do... rehash a dead tech as "easy, ready to spray", etc and make a mint... who'd a thunk it..

once again, a very pro looking job can be attained, you just have to understand the tendencies and limitations of the finish..

 

[DrkZide]

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