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A wrecked truck need info on value and other stuff

stoney126

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Hey all, I have ran across a 2005 chevy Crewcab shortbed 4x4. Its a diesel with an allison trans and some crazy lift I guess it was clearing 40's.

Anyway this thing rolled (go figure) and the body is no more. The seats are in good shape. The frame is good and mechanically the truck is sound. I Have been told it has 16k miles on it and a clean title.
What Would be the value of this truck? and I guess what It would cost me to repair or replace things. I would Have to replace the cab, doors and fenders and maybe salvage the bed, most likely some interior pieces. Any possibility to throw the stuff from my 89 CC on there:D I would be doing the work myself with a hand or two from some friends

Anyway thanks for any help
 
Nevermind, just read the upcoming smog laws for diesels. all the way back to 1997 :( Fug that
 
Nevermind, just read the upcoming smog laws for diesels. all the way back to 1997 :( Fug that

Eh? Smog laws for diesels? :eek: I assume you're serious -- got a link for me? :ears:

Sounds to me like the truck you described would be a great starting point for your sixpack ... or a Blazer or truggy. Solid drivetrain :deal: and axles maybe?

-- A
 
id get it and then swap the d-max/allison into your crewcab, that would be badass, and since ud have the complete truck, ud have everything u need to make it work (except custom cross-members, but thats not a big deal). how much can you get the truck for?
 
Bill signed by Gov Schwarzenegger
SUMMARY: Includes diesel-powered vehicles manufactured after the 1997 model-year and diesel-powered vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 8,501 pounds into the biennial smog check program, starting January 1, 2010.
The Senate amendments are significant and delete the requirement of a pilot testing program as a prelude to including diesel-powered vehicles into the biennial smog check program. Instead, the bill directs that, starting January 1, 2010, diesel-powered vehicles manufactured after the 1997 model-year and diesel-powered vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 8,501 pounds be integrated by the Bureau of
Automotive Repairs (BAR) into the biennial smog check program. Authorizes diesel-powered vehicle smog check testing to include on-board diagnostic testing.
EXISTING LAW:
1) Requires, generally, gasoline-fueled vehicles that are registered in nonattainment areas for ozone or carbon monoxide pollutant emissions to undergo biennial inspections of their emission control equipment and systems (smog check).

2) Authorizes BAR to enforce and administer the smog check program to ensure the reduction of gaseous emissions of hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, and oxides of nitrogen.
3) Establishes an enhanced motor vehicle inspection and maintenance program (smog check II) in each urbanized area of the state, any part of which is classified by the United States Environmental Protection Agency as a serious, severe, or extreme nonattainment area for specified air contaminants. Requires the smog tests to include, at minimum, loaded mode dynamometer testing in enhanced areas, and two-speed testing in all other program areas, and a visual or functional check of emission control devices specified by smog technicians.
4) Exempts diesel-powered vehicles from smog check, unless BAR determines that the inclusion of those vehicles is technologically and economically feasible, and, if that determination is made, requires a visual inspection of emission control devices and the diesel-powered vehicle’s exhaust emissions, and authorizes the testing of emissions of specified pollutants and the measurement of emissions of smoke or particulates, or both.
5) Finds and declares that the reduction of emissions from diesel powered vehicles, to the maximum extent feasible, is in the best interests of air quality and public health.
6) Requires the periodic evaluation of the smog check program by BAR and the Air Resources Board (ARB). Establishes the Inspection and Maintenance Review Committee Inspection and Maintenance Review Committee (IMRC) to review the evaluation and to submit a report or proposed plan to the Legislature.
AS PASSED BY THE ASSEMBLY, this bill:
1)Made findings and declarations relative to the intention and focus of the pilot program to initiate smog inspections for diesel vehicles under 14,000 pounds.
2)Required BAR, on or before January 1, 2009, in consultation with ARB, to develop and adopt, by regulation, a two-year pilot program to integrate lightweight diesel vehicles into the smog check program.
3)Established that vehicles owners will not be subject to disciplinary action as a result of the testing during the pilot program and shall be provided with the test results and information on possible ways to reduce emissions.
4)Required BAR, in consultation with ARB, to prepare and submit to the Governor and the Legislature, on or before July 1, 2011, a report on the pilot program on the number of vehicles tested each year, a comparison of the emissions of diesel to nondiesel vehicles, the overall effects of the diesel vehicles on the air quality in the state. Requires BAR to make a recommendation for permanent deployment of the program by July 1, 2012.
FISCAL EFFECT: According to the Senate Appropriations Committee, costs of $6.6 million over a two-year period for expansion of the smog check program. Further, BAR estimates a 13% (52,000 vehicles) failure rate and corresponding annual consumer assistance program costs for vehicle repairs of $2.5 million annually.
COMMENTS:
1)Background: BAR estimates 400,000 lightweight (under 14,000 pounds), diesel powered vehicles that would be integrated into the smog check program pursuant to this bill. Currently, these vehicles are not required to undergo biennial smog checks, as are required for similar non-diesel vehicles. Under existing law, prior to including diesel vehicles under the smog check requirements, BAR has to make a determination that the inclusion of diesel vehicles is technologically and economically feasible, and, if that determination is made, requires a visual inspection of emission control devices and the diesel-powered vehicle’s exhaust emissions, and authorizes the testing of emissions of specified pollutants and the measurement of emissions of smoke or particulates, or both. Also, according to sources, there is only one vendor that manufactures the tailpipe emissions of diesel vehicles.
2)State Implementation Plan (SIP): Federal clean air laws require areas with unhealthy levels of ozone, carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, sulfur dioxide, and particulate matter to develop plans, known as SIPs, demonstrating how the state will achieve national ambient air quality standards. SIPs are a
compilation of new and previously submitted plans, programs (e.g., modeling, monitoring, permitting), district rules, state regulations, and federal controls. SIPs rely on certain control strategies, including emission standards for cars and heavy trucks, fuel regulations, and limits on emissions from consumer products.
Prior to obtaining legislative authority to implement this measure, ARB has included smog inspections of light-duty (8,500 pounds) diesel vehicles model years 1998 or newer as an emission control strategy in the state’s SIP for attaining the federal standard for ozone. The state SIP for ozone is expected to be adopted by ARB shortly, and this measure is proposed to be implemented in 2010.
3)South Coast Air Quality Management District Control Strategy: On-Board Diagnostic II Systems (OBD II), the second generation of on-board self-diagnosis equipment requirements for California vehicles, have been required for gasoline-powered light- and medium-duty vehicles from the 1996 model year and for diesel-powered vehicles beginning with the 1997 model year. The OBD II monitoring requirements were designed to be as comprehensive as possible with the goal of detecting nearly every cause of high vehicle emission levels. As such, OBD II systems offer the potential for assessing the emission-related performance of a vehicle, without directly measuring its emission levels, by verifying that no malfunction exists that has the potential of increasing emissions beyond the levels to which the vehicle must comply.
The OBD II systems equipped on gasoline powered vehicles are already being relied upon in conjunction with emissions testing as part of California’s smog check program and are used exclusively for emissions compliance determinations for inspection and maintenance programs in other states.
4)Support: In support of this bill, the California Automobile Association Clubs support the bill while indicating that, “For over 30 years, gasoline- powered vehicles have been mandated to undergo smog check to ensure their cleanliness. Over that time period, significant improvements in emissions have been realized. New cars are at least 95% cleaner than pre-control (1965) model year cars. For technical reasons diesel vehicles were not a part of smog check’s original program. Later, no new diesel vehicles were available for sale in the state
because they could not meet the same pollution standards as gasoline vehicles. One reason for this was that diesel fuel did not allow for advanced emission systems on vehicles because the sulfur content damaged these systems. With the new low sulfur diesel now available, some new diesel-powered vehicles will be sold in the state since it is anticipated that the new fuel will not damage these advanced emission systems. Therefore, there is no reason to exempt diesel vehicles from the smog check program. All vehicles should be
treated fairly.”
 
Based on the GVWR of 8501 listed in the bill, the 3/4 ton Chevy should be in a much higher ratings class, and should be exempt from that rule. 3/4 ton Chevy CC Silverado HD with Duramax is rated at 9200 GVWR, so it is outside of the new smog rules. If it was a 1 ton it would be 9900 for a SRW version, over 11000 for the DRW version.

Don't rule out that chassis just because of the new smog rules, they don't apply to that vehicle.
 
Eh? Smog laws for diesels? :eek: I assume you're serious -- got a link for me? :ears:

Sounds to me like the truck you described would be a great starting point for your sixpack ... or a Blazer or truggy. Solid drivetrain :deal: and axles maybe?

-- A


its got the 11.5 aam axle in the back and some whipcrash lift up front. with IFS to run 40's:eek1: Would quickly swap a 60 in there.
 
id get it and then swap the d-max/allison into your crewcab, that would be badass, and since ud have the complete truck, ud have everything u need to make it work (except custom cross-members, but thats not a big deal). how much can you get the truck for?

Im not sure on what there asking for the truck and im unsure on the value of it. I thought the allison wouldnt fit between te framerails of my 89 CC. Would be easier to slap the body of my CC on the 05 frame? I may even look at getting a current body depending on prices.
 
I would definitely go with the newer frame FWIW, the amount of torque coming from that engine and transmission combo will twist your crewcab frame apart pretty quickly unless you box the frame and beef up every cross member on the frame as well.

One dream I have always had and will hopefully get to follow through with after I finish school is completely rebuilding and redesigning an older creb cab cheby to accept the equipment of a newer diesel.

My plan would be to cut off the entire firewall from the windshield frame down along with the floors all the way back to the rear basically leaving the door frames, doors, roof windshield/windshield frame, rear wall on a 4 door 90-ish crewcab. I would then do just the opposite to the newer truck by trimming off the roof, rear wall, doors, door frames, windshield, windshield frame.

The trick would be to take alot of measurements to ensure that you leave yourself enough metal to have something to weld to. After its done, voila!!!!! You will still be able to mount and use all the later model equipment like the electronics, steering collumn, later model master cylinder, and be able to mount it to the later model d-max frame, where I would then do a sas d60 swap.:D


I know this would be a bit involved as far as swaps go, but the end product would be something nobody else would EVER think about doing, much less doing it. I have seen a similar project done over on ls1tech.com, and a guy did basically the same thing I discussed, but using a mid-late 70s transam and a late model ls1 equiped f-body. Turned out amazing, I will try to find a link for reference.


Cant find it at the moment, I will try to dig it up later.

Remington
 
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