Disc brakes 14's are rather plentiful, 01-02 maybe is when they started. They have ribs.
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Alternative one ton axles.
- Thread starter Vombrown
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runamok151
1 ton status
Unimog 404 or 406 axles for the win.
Vombrown
Mountain Man
You find me a set for less than the cost of the DANA 60 front and I'll take 4 sets.
Hummer portals...
Vombrown
Mountain Man
Guys the whole point of this thread was to NOT have to spend the money to purchase a 60 front axle for an exorbitant amount. It's exploring the alternative front axles that are LESS money than a 60....LESS.
Vombrown
Mountain Man
BUT...BUT, I can't?
Ned Kelly
1/2 ton status
Just curious, what are D60 fronts going for in your area?
Vombrown
Mountain Man
A GM Dana 60 is going for about 14-1600.....or at least that is what they are asking. I found a ford HP 60 for 1k. The 2005 Ford 60's we were discussing are about 250-400 bucks in the salvage yard. Rear axles from the same year model are the same price generally. So essentially I can get the axles from the 05 ford, front and back, with the parts needed to swap them in for less than folks are wanting for a GM Dana 60.
GM D60 = bolt in
'05 Ford axles = 10 miles from bolt in
Surprisingly, the cost of the axle is fairly tied to it's value. The cheap D60's are cheap for a reason.
'05 Ford axles = 10 miles from bolt in
Surprisingly, the cost of the axle is fairly tied to it's value. The cheap D60's are cheap for a reason.
99-04 Ford 60’s are still leaf sprung. Not too far off and you can have it under a GM quite easily. Still a good axle to use and won’t break the bank with upgrades.
And if you can find an LKQ, we sell the set of Ford axles for $600ish.
And the 11.5’s for $500 or less. The 3.73’s are even cheaper.
And the 11.5’s for $500 or less. The 3.73’s are even cheaper.
Vombrown
Mountain Man
Not sure that I agree with that. Please remember that there are tons of things that used to be cheap and have now skyrocketed. The 4bt cummins comes to mind, remember when you could buy a trailer load of them for 250 bucks a piece? I do, and bought them. Then folks figured out how to use them and all of a sudden CRAZY prices. Well, these 05 up axles, I think, are another one of those things. There are now methods to get them into other trucks and folks are certainly doing it. Eventually I think they will go up as they become more popular.
The swap isn't a hard one at all it seems, with talking with a guy who has done a TON of them. Strength in comparison is also a slight difference but hey, it sounds fun. If I just happen to find a realistically priced GM 60, I will buy it. If not, I'm down to try new stuff. Coil sprung, big brakes.....what's not to like?
6" off on spring perch width? How do you fix that without retubing it?
Are you planning on using radius arms like the stock Ford?
Vombrown
Mountain Man
Yeah there is a full kit available to use the factory radius arm locations, then coil overs. Looks to be a weekend project or less. Very little fabrication needed. It pretty much just goes right under there. Cross over steering is required but I was going to do that anyway. Of course it will also require a trac bar.
What's the plan for crossover?
Metric pattern for the wheels?
Radius arms need to be pretty much exactly flat or the roll steer they naturally have is extreme, so they hang down a lot.
Vombrown
Mountain Man
2wd box, and ORD crossover kit for the steering,
Metric pattern wheels aren't a big deal...the ford metric steel wheels are pretty tough, cheap and readily available. 17 or 18" piled ten high in the salvage yards.
Ruff stuff makes a seemingly universal kit to connect to the stock radius arm positions on the axle. Locations shouldn't be an issue as long as it's done well, keeping the correct geometry in mind.
We (and nobody that I know of) make crossover for those axles, the balljoint knuckles aren't setup for crossover.
Vombrown
Mountain Man
Keep in mind, most of this is hypothetical. I've not seen it done on a square body Chevy truck. So I'm sure it will require more in the line of thought process but I don't see any reason at all that it wouldn't work just fine. If they can jam one under a jeep, we can surely do it with k20.
