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And that's how to kill a Caddy 500

mtnman210

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Out playing in Azusa Canyon yesterday for the grand opening of the obstacle course. Ended the day out playing in the pit. Took almost 5 hours and a few rigs to get it out. While we were re-positioning a winch line I lost all oil pressure and killed it as soon as I could. I couldn't get it to crank after that. The motor was pretty well submerged, so I don't doubt there's water in it. Won't know how bad it is until I get it pulled this week. Oh well, still an awesome day.


The pictures were early in the process, As soon as I get pictures from everyone who has them I'll post some more.

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That sucks :doah:.....and another reason I don't like mud anymore :D

Any info on the Wagoneer ? My brother is currently building one :D
 
I once got my truck with a BBC stuck in water/mud. The engine was partially submerged under water at the harmonic end so I left the truck idling while we worked on getting it pulled back out.
Once we got it out, the motor didn't quite run right after that. Immediately knew there was water in the pan but the pressure was reading ok so I made the 1.5 mile trek home, slowly.
Got home safely and immediately dropped the pan plug to watch the water and oil come out. After getting the last drop to fall, I changed the filter and poured in fresh oil to let it idle and coat everything inside the motor with new oil. After several minutes, I shut it off and drained the oil again. Changed another filter and poured in fresh oil again.
I repeated this cycle 2 more times and today the truck and BBC are still running flawlessly. Even though I went thru that much oil and filters, it was much cheaper than another motor.

After talking with a friend, we came to the conclusion that while the motor was idling, the harmonic balancer snout would be warm riding against the seal and the cold water may have caused it to expand to let water in thru the seal.
 
That sucks man, hopefully she's ok or at least salvageable. Looks like a nice wheeling spot.
 
I think pretty much anybody who drives mud or hunts in Fl. swamps has a water in engine story.
Mine was my old F150.
May have told it here before.
Last day of hunting season, I am headed home. Its about 35 degrees and slowly getting dark.
I'm cutting through the woods going down a graded county road. I had unlocked my hubs, since I was not going through anything bad and would hit the highway soon.

Came to a wide mudhole in the road. I could see where other folks had been driving across it, and it just looked like a backed up culvert.
Drove off in it, and the culvert in the middle collasped.
The water came up to the top edge of the front of the hood. Headlights and fan went under..
I didn't want to get wet, since it was cold, so I climbed out the back sliding window, across the top, and lay across the hood trying to reach my hubs.
Finally had to get a rope out of the toolbox and hang head first across the side holding on to the rope to reach my hubs.

Tried 4wd, did no good at all. Neither front tire was touching anything solid.

Took off my shoes, socks, and pants and slid into that darn cold water. Grabbed my winch cable and waded ashore.
Stomped barefooted across a ditch with briars and hooked to the first little tree I came to.
Put the winch in gear and started trying to pull myself out.
Tree leaned over and fell, but somehow the roots jammed and it held. I had the tires turning in low range, so as soon as the fronts got against the other side of the culvert, they climbed out.

Of course, the tree had fallen across the hook, so I wound up cutting it in two to get my cable loose.
Just wrapped the cable around the winch and got in to warm up.

The engine had been running all this time. I put it in gear, started off and it stalled. Ford positive engagement type starter. I had had to crank it in the mudhole once, and the starter worked fine.
But, when I did, it opened the field shorting contacts, and mud got between them. So now, it could not short the one field and so the Bendix would not pull in.

Starter would spin just fine, but would not engage the ring gear.
Got on the CB, way before cell phones, and got someone to call my house. Friend came and hooked to my winch cable and towed me to the highway.

We left it there, and my mechanic and I came back the next afternoon and towed it back to the shop.

Replaced the starter, cranked it and pulled it over out of the way.
It sat from that Monday to about Thursday. I went out to check the oil and found rust about halfway up the dipstick.
I immediately did like thatK30guy did, changing the oil a couple of times. It ran just fine.
I drove it off and on for about a month, but started getting nervous. I tend to drive places I would really hate to have to walk out of.

I asked, and my mechanic said he could drop the pan without pulling the engine.
I could not stay and watch, but when I got back, he handed me some engine bearings.
He said that the crank looked OK, but the bearings were pitted. He put in new mains and rod bearings
Plasigaged everything, and closed it back up.
I never have figured out how the bearings were pitted and the crank was OK, but I drove that engine for another 30K, swapped in a blueprinted engine that I got a heck of a deal on, and gave that engine to my mechanic.

He stuck it in another truck, and got well over 80K before he sold it to someone.
 
Got on the CB, way before cell phones, and got someone to call my house.
Exactly how my excursions were back in the day. God I miss those days!
 
Sorry to hear D. But how did you like the obstacle course? I drove up there one day to check it out, but never went in. It was, at the time, incomplete too.

I know Azusa and it's tempting mud. Damn nasty, stinky, filthy.... mud :)
 
I wouldnt quite panic yet, it may be nothing at all. Iv lost oil pressure twice in my BB, once from an oil cooler line being cut and something else that i forgot now. I have submerged it over the valvecovers and left it running, deep enough to have water coming in the doors and the 4wd shifter with bascially a 12in lift on 39.5s, done all sorts of nonsense with this motor, filled it with water a few times. I just towed it out, drained it, dosed the gas tank in HEET, changed plugs and such when i needed and ran it. Cut open the oil filter every time so I could check for shavings and have yet to find anything suspicious. Newer bearings can take a surprising amount of crap before they give up the ghost, so you may just get lucky. Worst comes to worst it was a fun day atleast, when i cut my oil cooler line we had been wheeling about 30min at a mudbog 2hrs away, and before that line cut I pulled it off the trailer and the brakes went out, and then my buddy busted the window out climbing into it, then it broke a locking hub in the first pit and got stuck, then preceded to cut the oil cooler line.... And i was late for a wedding that same day....
 

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