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Anti-wrap bar question

Z71paramedic

Z71paramedic

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So even though we're moving to Germany in 3 months and I have to send the truck back to my Dad for the next couple years, I still want to finish a couple more things before then. One of those is the anti-wrap bar.

I picked up a set of Kert's anti-wrap brackets for the 14 bolt and have a few of his fabricator bushing kits here as well as a Johnny joint and some 1/8" wall square tube to use. My issue is that things are getting a wee bit tight under the truck and I'm not sure I can have the bar be a straight shot from the axle to the frame. I was curious if anyone thinks it would be a huge issue to weld the brackets on the axle, and the johnny joint onto the crossmember I made and have the bar at an angle between the two. Here's a pic to help me describe what I mean...

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Sorry for the poor quality but it's very bright out ATM:whistle: I was thinking weld the brackets as close to the cast housing as possible, and the johnny joint just to the left of the exhaust. If that won't work my only other real option is to come off the axle and weld the johnny joint right to the frame where it kicks up just in front of the forward spring hanger. I should be able to get that straight if I do it there, but I wasn't 100% on whether the c-channel could support the stress like that...

I was going to leave it alone, but the torque steer is noticeable enough that I think most people (ie my wife/dad) would not be overly keen on it...

Let me know what you guys think.
 
This is where mine ended up after much brainstorming and discussion amongst many members (Kert, Eric, Heath, Jesse) that were at my place for build and greet 2011....

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76zimmer said:
This is where mine ended up after much brainstorming and discussion amongst many members (Kert, Eric, Heath, Jesse) that were at my place for build and greet 2011....
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And Even though kert dropped it on my head while I was putting it on, I still get no mention.... :haha:
 
Thanks Zim. That looks like a sick setup, I really like Kert's wraptor truss system but I think the shipping would absolutely kill me on it... The other issue I was wondering about is, I think the first gen frames are significantly narrower than yours but I may be making that up... All I know is space is tight between the frame rails because of the driveshaft and the exhaust, and the pumpkin is, as you know, very wide on the 14. Kinda stickin it to me at the moment:doah:
 
Deuling said:
And Even though kert dropped it on my head while I was putting it on, I still get no mention.... :haha:
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lol maybe that's why you weren't participating in the discussion.

as far as making it offset it wont affect the performance much, just make sure the upper joint wont bind, you may need a flex joint on top and bottom of the shackle
 
Thanks Eric. I was thinking of welding the flex joint at a slight angle onto the crossmember to offset it a bit and having the other joints set so they were square with the mounting and cutting the tube at the angle. Probably gonna get to work on it tomorrow, hence the asking now. I was doing some small stuff today and thought about doing this until I remembered the spacial issue I had discovered a while back...

Pics to follow of whatever I end up burning together:eek1::whistle:
 
Deuling said:
And Even though kert dropped it on my head while I was putting it on, I still get no mention.... :haha:
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Sh!t how did I miss that????
:doah:

Z71paramedic said:
Thanks Zim. That looks like a sick setup, I really like Kert's wraptor truss system but I think the shipping would absolutely kill me on it... The other issue I was wondering about is, I think the first gen frames are significantly narrower than yours but I may be making that up... All I know is space is tight between the frame rails because of the driveshaft and the exhaust, and the pumpkin is, as you know, very wide on the 14. Kinda stickin it to me at the moment:doah:
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I think Kert and I measured 34.5" outside to outside on mine and his.
 
Z71paramedic said:
That's pretty much what I have Adam. Seems like it should work pretty well and is rebuildable.

Oh and I should be able to ship yo reeems either tomorrow or early next week. I just have to wrangle up some boxes that they'll fit in:D
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OMG BOXES!!! :woot:
 
76zimmer said:
Sh!t how did I miss that????
:doah:



I think Kert and I measured 34.5" outside to outside on mine and his.
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I'll check mine and report back. (can't remember now even though a few months ago I had measured that like 50 times for various reasons...)
 
I went through the same thing and ended up moving the exhaust. I got one of those dual-in, dual-out mufflers and crossed the PS pipe over just behind the T-case. The way I see it, the exhaust is temporary and will have to be redone sooner or later. You might not want to compromise the suspension setup to save the exhaust unless it's stainless or something. There really is not much room laterally between the pumpkin and the frame rail, as you have already discovered. There is no good way to make it work outside of the frame either. So you can come up with a wraptor-esque center mount, or your brackets end up on the tube right next to the pumpkin (as you have already discovered).

On the bright side, you have tiny little mufflers to work around. If you do try to sneak it around your exhaust, make sure the traction bar can't smash it during articulation. This will also prevent you from running full-size mufflers in the future.
 
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