True, but if you take a look at the link "Bumpers on Trucks" It will show you various models with the bumper. There is one where there is a late model White Chevy with a Can-Back top; it's approach angle is pretty good. The Fords are the ones that suck. BTW, some of those SuperDuty's and Ex.'s dont even look like they are used for thier intended purpose, what was it again....
Oh yeah, to go off road /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif