Anyone actually using their PTO?

[jonrpick]

I've noticed PTOs being mention on t-cases, and know that they can be used for winches and pumps and such...but I've never seen or heard of anyone actually using their PTO for anything.

Are they selectable, meaning are they always on or are they controlled somehow??? Is there any gear reduction going on?

Somebody please give me the skinny on PTOs.

 

[JEBSR]

They do not run all the time. They are constant mesh but you engage and disengage them manually. The most common method of engaging them is by cable. I am looking for one with an air actuator for mine since I have on board air. I will be running it off of my trans instead of the transfer though. It will operate both my winches.

 

[dyeager535]

My dad's got a Ramsey PTO winch on his truck, most often gets used for hauling dead elk up steep hills, but has been used to extricate vehicles, move trees around, etc. Cable actuated.

 

[jonrpick]

My dad's got a Ramsey PTO winch on his truck, most often gets used for hauling dead elk up steep hills, but has been used to extricate vehicles, move trees around, etc. Cable actuated.

Does engaging the PTO disconnect power to the axles?

 

[dyeager535]

Nope. Need the transfercase in neutral. Shifting the transmission and using the gas pedal controls how fast the line is taken in, or spooled out if in reverse.

 

[jonrpick]

Nope. Need the transfercase in neutral. Shifting the transmission and using the gas pedal controls how fast the line is taken in, or spooled out if in reverse.

Cool, thanks

 

[original balzer]

Nope. Need the transfercase in neutral. Shifting the transmission and using the gas pedal controls how fast the line is taken in, or spooled out if in reverse.

UNLESS its used on the transmission rather than the x-case. I belive the PTO on a transmission runs off a gear on the main shaft. I know my PTO will engage and run with the trans in neutral, or in gear. Mine isnt used yet but I will be rebuilding one of my many SM465's a NP203 and a NP205 and will add the PTO to one of them. But I still dont have any idea what I will use it for....I do have a OLD OLD PTO winch but dont even know the rateing on it its about the size of a 9500warn physicaly.

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[resurrected_jimmy]

sounds like an old 8000 lb ramsey

 

[cegusman]

If you run it off of your tcase you will have 4-5 forward gears and a reverse which is nice.

 

[original balzer]

sounds like an old 8000 lb ramsey

Thats what I was thinking but it has no tin plates or stickers on it anymore to say what it is. It came off a 75 C30 "homebuilt" tow truck.

Hey I do have a pic.....

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[jonrpick]

Thats what I was thinking but it has no tin plates or stickers on it anymore to say what it is. It came off a 75 C30 "homebuilt" tow truck.

Hey I do have a pic.....

Balzer

Well it does say "Ramsey" right there on the side of it.

 

[resurrected_jimmy]

Well it does say "Ramsey" right there on the side of it.

yep......


Those things will pull way more than they are rated for, you gotta be careful with pto winches, really think about what you are doing and pay attention to everything going on with the pull you are making. Once you start with a pto winch they don't just clutch out like an electric winch when you let off the button and you aren't gonna bog one down or stall it, they have serious potential to hurt folks if you aren't careful

 

[jonrpick]

yep......


Those things will pull way more than they are rated for, you gotta be careful with pto winches, really think about what you are doing and pay attention to everything going on with the pull you are making. Once you start with a pto winch they don't just clutch out like an electric winch when you let off the button and you aren't gonna bog one down or stall it, they have serious potential to hurt folks if you aren't careful

Yeah, I did some research before posting...I saw mention of people using the PTO on agricultural/farm equipment and getting seriously hurt and/or killed.

 

[resurrected_jimmy]

ag type pto's are a little different because of the open drive configuration, they are a midevil type of dangerous. PTO winches get dangerous when the operator starts a pull and there are bystandards around toget sliced by snapping cables since you operate them from inside the cab and its very hard to judge how much load you have on the winch since its being driven through a V8 instead of a 12V DC motor. A real good way to hurt yourself is trying to spool one back up as a one man operation..... engage winch, start feeding cable to it.... get caught in cable without anyone else around to disengage winch....

 

[original balzer]

Yea I was thinking about the BIG winch I got, its like 20k or maybe even higher, its off an old log skidder, that dont have any name or ID tags on it. The tow truck winch is a ramesy s200l 8k. It had been a while since I was out in the south 40 so I was a little confused and had the 2 mixed up in my mind, sorry. I went and got the ramesey and started disassembling it to clean it up. It had lots of boogery oily globs inside so apperantly it has had a little water in it at some point. Luckily it appears that most the winch used grease to lube it and the worm drive is oil bath. That being said there wasnt any rust on the steel parts inside and the case is alum, or some sort of alloy. Inside there was the boogery mess and lots of thick old grease. I got most of it took appart today but couldnt find my gear/wheel puller so the main shaft is all I need to finish takeing it appart. the parts are all soaking in a 5 gal bucket of gas, and tomorrow Ill find my puller and finish takeing it appart and clean it up. New oil, grease and either wire or sinthetic rope and it will be good to go. Should I do a thread on it? A how to of sorts? Even though its pretty basic inside, some guys dont know what they look like inside.

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[jonrpick]

Go for it... any tech thread should be welcome info.

 

[atho]

You can use a transfer case PTO when the transfer case is in gear. At least on 205's you can. The only problem I'd see with this would be driving faster than the winch can pull, so you might run over your own cable.

There were pics floating around the net many moons ago of a guy who used a front mounted winch on an older chevy pickup. he drove over the cable, then attached the hook to the rear bumper (i think this was just laziness on his part, iirc) but forgot to disengage the pto. It turned his truck into an A-frame