I was thinking on making a new front tube bumper out of 8.5" wide tube I found today.use the torch and cut into the tube,slide a piece of "C" channel into the C shape cut on the tubethen weld it.do the other side,and presto! a nice tube bumper,stick it out a little bit and weld a 1.5" thick plate to the "C" rails extended from the frame ( which are bolted with 3 bolts to each side of the frame)for my winch plate. whatcha all think? lets see picks of your front bumpers. you can see my current front bumper in my webshots account under this.