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Anyone Running a Cross Over Steering like this?

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I was checking out the website for Avalanch engineering, They have some cool stuff, like those rock rings steve just posted about. But anyways they are selling these steering arms for a cross over. They are using 2 steering arms to move lower steering rod that always gets bent, up above the springs. I thought I heard that there was clearance issues doing this?? When I start building my axels I plan to cross over so I am trying to get some info. Thanks

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BlazerBoy
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Why would we want to run Jeep steering in our K5?
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go to the chevy forum at www.off-road.com and check out prodject rockready. That belongs to DepDog and has a cross over on it.

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That is the style I would like to go with to get the tierod bar up and out of the way.... I have a Rock Rod now(that I haven't gotten to try out yet) hopefully that will end my tierod bending days!

Mike
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Unless you want to do some major lift, or move your steering box it wont work. Your new steering arm on the drivers side will smash into the steering box and or the pitman arm.


Myself and I also believe Stephen Watson are of the same opinion on this.

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I'm not sure there would be enough room to run the tie-rod over the springs, I even asked Clinton at Avalanche this, he said you might have to limit the suspension flex to get it to work, I have YET to run into a problem where I wasted a tie rod but you never know. You can check out Dep's cross over in the tech section for a good working setup. I am working with someone on a kit for the Dana 60 so if your interested you might want to wait a few more weeks, thats about all I can say right now.

Steve
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I'm running one of Avalanche's Dana 60 steering arm for my crossover. My lower rod is still in the stock location, though it consists of DOM tubing with heim joint ends. I looked at moving it above the leaf springs when I first did it, and I think it would work, I just never got around to it. One reason was that I wanted to protect the diff, Avalance now sells those diff rings pictured and is coming out with some HD diff covers.

BTW, it's Clifton Slay, not Clinton.

Pete

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Thank's Pete, I was never any good with names.
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Steve
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Bryan,

Some of us from the K5 run are looking into buying this setup. I think it will work. People are talking about it hitting the springs, but heres a thought. If you clear the springs by any distance, that distance will stay constant no matter what you do with your axle in movement. If this were false, then your rod being below the springs would contact it too. Same difference, the axle moves with the springs. Granted, the springs do distort somewhat, but not enough to contact it if you do this correctly. Were checking into it for all of us. Ill keep you posted.



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looks great to me. It kakes sense that the distance to the springs wouldnt change. What do they want for that setup? A fortune?


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I actually got the idea to do a cross over set up after looking at Steve Rumore's (owns Avalanche in Bayfield, CO) '71 K5. If any of you guys are going to be in Moab next week, they usually have a display set up at the Arena (with all the other vendors). I think they have a steering mockup with Dana 44 knuckles.

Pete

'83 K5, 350 TBI (ex 6.2), 700R4, NP208, Dana 60/14 bolt, 4.56s, Detroits, 3" lift, 15-39.5x15 TSLs
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The distance to the springs won't change, but the amount of room between the now high tie rod and the frame will change under compression. You also have to worry about the clearance between the pitman arm and the tie rod, may or may not be a problem, I dunno. Not saying it won't work just that you may or may not have clearance problems.

Steve
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I think Keith put the tie rod on top of the knuckle when he did his cross over. It is still below the springs, though. He used heim joints and 6" springs. I will e-mail him and find out for sure.

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Hi,
I did a tie-rod over set up on my 10 bolt. I used the 44 nuckles with arms from ORD(I forget ware Steve gets them). I used the stock ti-rod assembly fliped end to end so the steering shock hole (drilled to 3/4 dia) is on the passenger side. Then the 2wd steering box with a Jeep drop pitman arm drilled out to 3/4 bolt size. I then used so chrome-alloy tubeing with 3/4 hiem joints. I had to bend the tubeing into a dog leg shape, I have yet to have any clearence problems. The blazer ramps a 905 RTI with a 4 inch EZ rides for and aft plus a ORD 2.5 shackle flip. My only real worry is the stregth on the tie rod ware i drilled it out 3/4 inch. But I'm going to a D60 soon and will be using an arm with two holes in it.
Hope this helps.
Russ V.
 
I just got an e-mail back from Keith. He has D44 knuckles on a 10B. The tierod is on the top side of the knuckle in the stock position-still below the springs, but a couple inches higher than stock. I told him about this thread, maybe he can explain it better.

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I just got off the phone with Cliffton from Avalanche asking him about clearance and we are going to try and hook up over EJS so he can take a look at my setup, I will let you know what he says.

Steve
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In the January 2000 issue of Four Wheeler, there is a guy with an 83' k5 blazer that has the same setup. He has a dana 60 front with 8" of lift, xover steering and 40" gumbo mudders. There are pictures of this truck flexing and there is plenty of room for this setup.

1978 K5, Palisades Park, NJ 07650
 
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