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Anyone upgrade their 8274?

85 Jimmy

85 Jimmy

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Once I get my truck back on the road I plan to rebuild my Warn 8274. The last time I pulled the motor off, one of the terminals was broken off on the inside of the motor, so I soldered it back, and over the last 6 years that motor has gotten me by.

Looking at new motors it looks like the old 8274's used a 2.5 hp motor, the newer 8274's use a 4.6 hp motor, and then some people put a 6 hp motor from a Warn XP9500HS. I plan to run the 6 hp motor and get a new pinion gear to make it work.

Has anyone else upgraded one on here? I don't want to run dual motors like they do overseas. What other parts should I look into other than a brake rebuild kit?
 
check out there site from overseas thay have all sorts of hop up parts for these.

i am at work and dont have the link here. will post up later.
 
Well, I've done some searching and it looks like 2 common motor swaps are the Warn 9.5xp pn 68608 and the Warn pn 70865 from their industrial line. It looks like the 68608 swap is more common, but I'm wondering if swapping in the 70865 has any advantages over the other.

I searched Pirate and there is only 2 threads on the 70865 and only 1 of those has any real information, but the OP hasn't updated it since 2008...

My goal is to get a stronger pull and faster speed. If I break something with the extra power I'll address it at that time.

Anyone have any experience?
 
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Wow, thanks for the link....twin 6hp motors and gearing from stock speed to 400ft/min. but it all comes at a hefty price.
 
wow........ twin motors......400 Feet per minute 14 tons of pulling power...:eek1:



speeds of over 400ft per minute, down to 70ft per min and pulling power from 3 ton to 14 ton.
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BAD ARSE........:pimp: :bow:
 
I don't know what the first winch Warn made model was, but it looked a lot like the ones you folks like.
Can't be the same one, because it was pure junk.

Back then, I was helping build winches locally, and had a Konig PTO on my old dual wheeled Jeep.
I pulled out more folks with Warn winches.........

The normal fail mode was to just pull up tight and quit. It had that clicking ratchet that started out clicking like mad, then just got slower and slower until it stopped.

At which time they would start cussing and walking out to a phone to call me.

The winches we built used a Ford 6V starter motor with a military surplus planetary gearbox.
We tested each winch by mounting it to a frame, winding one wrap of 5/16 steel core cable on, hooking it to an old bus sideways, and using a big battery.

Each winch had to break that cable before we would sell it.

One day a guy showed up with an almost brand new Warn. He had just been pulled out of a bog by a guy with one of our winches, and he wanted one. He gave us the Warn for removing it and installing one of ours.

We hooked it to our test stand, and it pulled up really tight and stalled.
We took the motor off, gutted out the windings, pressed the windings off the armature shaft, and welded an adapter to the back side of the housing. Then we rigged up a coupling and mounted one of our Ford starter motors on using the original motor as an adapter.
We really liked the look of the Warn. Our winches were very crude looking and obviously homemade.
The idea was, if this worked, we would make a kit to adapt one of our motors closely to a Warn winch.

We put it on our test jig, put power to it, and the gearbox exploded like a small bomb when things got tight.

Like I say, I don't know what model that was, apparently not a 8274, but something to keep in mind.......
 
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Forum, 8274's are great winches. The one before that not quite so good.
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What he said.
I've hooked up to some guys that were STUCK, I'm talking buried to their frames in some nasty stuff, and that probably exceeded the 8,000 lb rating that they have and it just pulls and pulls and pulls. It may get slow, but it still pulls hard.
 
I don't know if they had some quality control problems early on or what, but around here they got a bad rep.
We sold a lot of winches to people who had bought Warns and were pulled out by one of ours.

My cardiologist friend's father had a big green and white Blazer with one on the front.
He came to our hunt camp a lot, and every time he got stuck very badly, I had to pull him out with my Jeep with the PTO winch.
I know it was not the Belleview, because I can still hear the clicking of the brake getting slower and slower until it stalled.
That was my cue to hop out and head that way with my cable.

I never worked on one of the installations, because we just assumed they were junk.
Now I have to wonder if whoever did the installation in this area was using too small power cable or doing something else wrong.

I did see two exploded gearboxes personally. One was the one we modified to use a stronger motor, and the other one the guy said he had used a second battery to try to get out.

Never knew if he went series or parallel.

Since they all seem to be doing really well now, I suspect there was some casting problems early on, and all those have since failed, leaving only the good ones.
 
Well, almost a year later and my winch still isn't back on my truck, or operational... Not b/c anything has been giving me problems, just haven't had the extra funds.
Although, I did get the winch torn down and rebuilt with all new bearings and brakes. I just put on a new 68608 motor from a 9.5xp. I also ordered a new solenoid cover for a 8274-50 because mine was all cracked up and missing chunks of it. Now I need to get 4 new 68379 solenoids, new synthetic winch line, an in cab switch and harness from 12volt guy, and find someone local to build me a front bumper like the ones blazenoffroad used to sell.
 
Incase anyone is looking at this, or looks at it in the future.

I have completed the winch. I replaced the old 2.5 hp prestolite motor with the 6 hp 68608 motor from a warn 9.5 XP. I also upgraded the solenoids to the heavier duty 68379 solenoids and have everything all wired up. I just spooled up some new synthetic line and it seems faster than it was before. Although, I haven't had to use it to see if the motor is noticeably stronger than the old one.
Everything works like it should so far, I just figured I'd give an update and not leave the thread unfinished. I may take a picture of it all this weekend and post it up.
 
If you don't mind me asking, how much do you think you gave in the upgrade?
 
Just on installing the new motor, with the new solenoids and cover, I'd say between $400-$500. I already needed a new motor though. My original had a bad connection on the inside. I probably could have just fixed it, but I didn't want to gamble with it working or not when I needed to use it next. I also needed new line for the winch, and I picked up 125' of 3/8 line from masterpull on eBay for $330.

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Here's the upgraded solenoids
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Here's the winch when I first got it. Between then and just prior to redoing it the plastic cover got cracked real bad and brittle, it was also missing some chunks.
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I can take more pictures if anyone is interested. I also plan to get a new aluminum fairlead/hawse before I actually use the winch.

And proof that I swapped to an aluminum fairlead.
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You may want to replace that hawse fairlead. I'm pretty sure those surface rust spots will cause abrasion on the synthetic rope.

edit: sorry, missed that last part of the post. Damn pictures can be distracting :)
 
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fyi there was a guy on ebay making and selling aluminum covers to get rid of the whimppy plastic ones for the coils .
 
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