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anyone use ag tires?

gonefishin

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I have been wanting to put 18.4 16.1 tractor tires on the blazer. where I live we only have mud. after switching from mud terrains to boggers it was a night and day difference. stuff that I would've got stuck in I can now almost idle through.

I just wonder if ag tires will take some of the fun out by making a lot of the holes to easy lol. also those are 44-46 inches tall so how much more lift would those require? I am running about 6-7 inches of lift and I have cut fenders. I think i could easily clear 40's. right now my 35's look small in the fenders.

anything else I should worry about if I switch? I have a d60/14bff so I don't know if I would break the 60 or not???
 
If you plan to drive it on the highway, your truck may hate you. They're HEAVY! I can't say anything about the ag tires other than they're not speed rated and will not wear well on asphalt, if you do any street driving.
 
Hoping to see a little more feed back on this, I've been looking into v treads in about 38" range to run at the local mud bogs.
 
I don't think that the lack of a speed rating alone means they will wear quickly on asphalt. The company I work for runs a bunch of JCB tractors that do 45mph and see thousands of miles on the road going between fields in a year. Now, the tires are rated for higher speeds, but they are big 'ol v-treads like any other tractor tire. They last for several years before the tread gets noticeably lower.
 
Hoping to see a little more feed back on this, I've been looking into v treads in about 38" range to run at the local mud bogs.

that's one of the reasons I want them, just to take to a couple of the local parks. when I go to general sams some of the holes are DEEP. 38's go completely under the muck and I don't even try the edges of most of the bigger holes there with my 35 inch boggers.
 
A number of our local mudders run ag tires. They seem to hook up better in the deep slop than even boggers and don't require as much hp to spin them and clean out the treads. Many of the guys will keep two sets of tires: swamper or boggers for when they're driving around and hitting holes and a set of ag. tires for when they're going to a big mud event and the truck will get towed to get there.

Couple of things to consider before you get ag. tires.

What's the biggest size tire you can legally run on the road? Keep in mind that construction and ag. equipment aren't held to the same vehicle equipment requirements as passenger cars/ trucks. Just because a farm tractor is allowed to drive up the road on a 56" tall tire doesn't mean a pickup can. Farm equipment is also not required to have DOT legal tires. If your p'up is on the road, DOT laws may apply. It all depends on your state and/or county vehicle inspection laws.

I'd try your truck w/ some 38s or 40s and see how it does. See if you can borrow a set to try out before you pony up $$ and buy your own. You might be happy w/ the new found performance of bigger tires. Keep in mine, if your on 40s and you go into a hole that was just rutted out by a truck on 56s, your probably getting stuck no matter what kind of tread you have.
 
well they are hard and they are hard and did I mention the are hard? lol

but seriously you better have a stout drivetrail because they will DESTROY parts, especially in the mud where they work.

In the rocks I render them useless as the compund is so hard. There are tons of threads on pirate about ag tires. Plenty of mud boggers around here run them with lots of hp, big axles and custom frames, ect. The ones that dont either get out of mud racing or upgrade pretty quickly.
 
I have run various sizes of ag's from 35" on my little jeep commanche up to 47" on my crew cab and burb what do you want to know?


the Firestone 16.1-16.5-6-ply is about 38-39" tall and is lighter then 39.5 TSL









 
Those look awesome. What size are the ones on the burb?

Are the ones on the brown truck 16.1 16.5? How much lift are you running on the truck? That setup looks about perfect for me, I think they would fit on my blazer as is. Are they on regular 16 inch rims?

How do you like them compared to a bogger? How do they handle compared to a bogger? Do you ever drive on the street with them?

I very seldom drive on the street, but I would like to be able to drive it a few miles every once in a while. I just wonder if it worth all the hassles to run ags?

Edit: also how much are those 16.1 16.5 tires?
 
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Those look awesome. What size are the ones on the burb?

Are the ones on the brown truck 16.1 16.5? How much lift are you running on the truck? That setup looks about perfect for me, I think they would fit on my blazer as is. Are they on regular 16 inch rims?

How do you like them compared to a bogger? How do they handle compared to a bogger? Do you ever drive on the street with them?

I very seldom drive on the street, but I would like to be able to drive it a few miles every once in a while. I just wonder if it worth all the hassles to run ags?


First thing: Most AG's are NOT DOT LEGAL.

The ones on my Burb are 16.1-18.4 6-ply Apples

Yes they will fit a normal 16" rims

The brown truck has 8" all spring lift normally it runs 38" boggers

As for how they compare to boggers, they don't AG's are different world you don't need big horsepower, and you don't want or need wheel speed the best way to use ag's its to idle through or they will dig down, ease into the gas . and let them work. My little jeep has a 4cyl welded rear diff and open front and it will go through stuff thats hangs up fully locked tons on 38" boggers and 39.5 Iroks.


Ok so they sound like a miracle tire, they do have disadvantages:

most are a tube type

they will fit on normal 16" wheels, But they work better on 16.1 wheels (wheel blanks http://www.heywheel.com/products/rims.html )

Beadlocks are needed they don't tend to debead but the tire will spin on the rim and rip the tubes out

They don't really work all that well on hard pack , and they don't really work that great on rocks either.

They will ****ing own 1-tons, AG's will break a 60 shaft like a 44" bogger does a 10-bolt

If you run them at a competition mud bog it will bump you into the open class .



If you trailer, run lots of mud and swamp,have a light foot, and have the drivetrain to handle them AG's are where it's at.
 
Thanks for all the info. I like those 16.1 16.5 tires. I was looking at the 18.4 apples because I didn't know there was a tire in the 40 inch range. These would fit the way my blazer sits now so I wouldn't have to modify anything else.

Are those 16.1 16.5 that hard on dana 60's too? Mine is completely stock, and welded front and rear. Do you think the 60 would last with those or would I be needing good shafts etc to run them?

I normally can take it pretty easy unless I have had too much liquid courage lol.
 
I think stock welded 60 would probably live a decent life if you drove it decent they are a lighter tire but they HOOK .
 
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