Yeah my friend bought a road bike for $4500 and then spent $3000 modifying it.
Some people put crazy money into bicycles, not me.
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Some people put crazy money into bicycles, not me.
bsgreen
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$6500 seems like a pretty good price for what your getting. Those i9 wheelsets are supposed to be pretty sweet.
Help me out here, I can't grasp spending four figures on two wheels.
I hop on my $100 Moab, I push the pedals, and I'm moving across the ground. Isn't that what this new bike does? What's the real difference? How is it 65 times more expensive than what I have? Is it 65 times better?
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Help me out here, I can't grasp spending four figures on two wheels.
I hop on my $100 Moab, I push the pedals, and I'm moving across the ground. Isn't that what this new bike does? What's the real difference? How is it 65 times more expensive than what I have? Is it 65 times better?
Your bike would not survive some of the terrain, simple as that.This trail is a perfect example where you want something light but very strong with optimal brakes, suspension, wheels, etc... Or you die when it breaks underneath you.
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ekajkrats
1/2 ton status
I'd say some of the real difference is in parts/tech, engineering and even craftsmanship of the bike. Each component is designed for weight reduction, durability and performance gains. To do just what @2Dogs showed and said.Help me out here, I can't grasp spending four figures on two wheels.
I hop on my $100 Moab, I push the pedals, and I'm moving across the ground. Isn't that what this new bike does? What's the real difference? How is it 65 times more expensive than what I have? Is it 65 times better?
The bike @bmxbryant9 linked to has adjust-ability I hadn't even seen before either to make the bike excel for multiple different types of riding without needing to have separate bikes. Eventually some of the tech will make it's way down to big box bikes, years and years down the road. I'd even say that there are more than 65 different ways the bike is better than a $100 bike. Improvements that will make it so he can go farther, faster, quieter, more capable and especially safer. When you are on the cutting edge of tech, things also get more expensive much more quickly to make it just a little better than the previous best.
I'd say the $6500 spent on a bike that keeps the wheels on the ground when you are taking on advanced terrain is a better value to anyone than a $10k trip to the E.R. (not to mention time to recover) because they attempted something that should not be done on a inexpensive bike.
bsgreen
1/2 ton status
There is a huge difference in quality, engineering, weight, performance between a $100 bike and a dedicated MTB. If your just pedaling around the house n such it doesn't really matter what bike you are on, but once you start getting into some long days on remote single-track or hitting the bikeparks a higher quality bike becomes essential.
6500 isn't necessary to get a quality mtb. (But it is awesome if you can afford it) There seems to be a pretty steep performamce gain until you get to 3000ish dollars on full suspension bikes. After that the performance gains per dollar spent start to taper off quite a bit IMO.
6500 isn't necessary to get a quality mtb. (But it is awesome if you can afford it) There seems to be a pretty steep performamce gain until you get to 3000ish dollars on full suspension bikes. After that the performance gains per dollar spent start to taper off quite a bit IMO.
You know that for me and you, definitely not going to make a difference, just like I will never own a Ferrari since my Honda will take me where I want for cheaper, but but for some it's worth it.Help me out here, I can't grasp spending four figures on two wheels.
I hop on my $100 Moab, I push the pedals, and I'm moving across the ground. Isn't that what this new bike does? What's the real difference? How is it 65 times more expensive than what I have? Is it 65 times better?
It's a tool for a job. Some better tools are needed for some jobs.
You can get some decent hard tails under 1500, and some decent full suspensions under 3k. Above that you're pretty much on preferences.
Theres a guy on youtube 'vancan' that lives/rides up in BC. Beautiful country but def could not do what he does on a walmart bike.
You can get some decent hard tails under 1500, and some decent full suspensions under 3k. Above that you're pretty much on preferences.
Theres a guy on youtube 'vancan' that lives/rides up in BC. Beautiful country but def could not do what he does on a walmart bike.
I'll just be getting the frame option. Just like wi t h every hobby the more you get into it the more expensive it tends to become.
Living 3+ hours from the closest ohv trail. Makes it hard to wheel. Riding bikes can be achieved easier and is more the primary hobby
Living 3+ hours from the closest ohv trail. Makes it hard to wheel. Riding bikes can be achieved easier and is more the primary hobby
I should have clarified. I bought a *used* Schwinn Moab. In 1997, a top-spec Moab cost over $1000, and mine was $700 with the steel frame downgrade. I would not advocate any Wal-Mart bike for someone who rides regularly. Cheap bikes just don't hold up. I have a $200 Mongoose with ~100 miles of casual trail riding, and it's already deteriorating. Even after 2 decades of wear, the Moab is a much better bike. So I understand looking at $500- $1000 bikes.
It's the jump from $600 to $6000 that I don't understand. But I'm just a putzing commuter, I'm not very deep into the hobby. I'm just discovering off-road riding, and I definitely still try to keep my wheels on the ground!
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I have enjoyed the trails enough to consider buying a 'real' hardtail next year. So I am legitimately trying to understand the difference. There hasta be a happy medium between the flimsy Mongoose and the bike listed above. Right?
I have enjoyed the trails enough to consider buying a 'real' hardtail next year. So I am legitimately trying to understand the difference. There hasta be a happy medium between the flimsy Mongoose and the bike listed above. Right?
Questions for you:
What is the terrain in your area - hardpack singletrack/loose primitive trail/rocks/hills/mountains etc....
What is your weight
What is your budget
You can get a great hardtail for 'reasonable' prices.
Aluminum hardtail example:
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/chisel-comp/p/171238?color=264104-171238&searchText=91720-5101
Carbon hardtail example:
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/epic-hardtail/p/184104?color=291515-184104&searchText=91321-7001
Just took my old bike to the shop to get a good tune up. I haven't riden in years but I want to get back into it. I'll get a new one eventually.
Course even if I wanted a new one right now. It's damn near impossible to find one.
Course even if I wanted a new one right now. It's damn near impossible to find one.
runamok151
1 ton status
runamok151
1 ton status
Good to know my Specialized Hardrock w/ a rigid frame is still semi-acceptable design-wise. I did put a gila suspension fork on it a few years ago to soften the jolt to the wrists. I'm not riding any kind of difficult trails though. Just rough street and gravel road for a little exercise.
Sitting here counting the bikes I have gone through since I started riding about 4 years ago.. 7 lol
I started out on a 500 dollar 2007 Fuji Tahoe (MSRP 800) hard tail and had 3 full suspensions, 2 other hard tails and a fat bike. I buy used as my budget allows and spend between 1000-2000 on each bike (and making a little money along the way). The MSRP values were between 800 and my current hard tail which is 10k (all bought when they are between 2-3 years old).
For what its worth here is my take..
-I will probably always buy used- especially when you get into the higher MSRP bikes they are usually ridden by good (and a lot of times sponsored) riders so they are really well taken care of and you can get a lot for your money and sometimes with upgrades.
-I have noticed a huge difference as I got better bikes- they are lighter (28lbs to my current is 19lbs) and better components (shifting, pedaling, braking ect) although I am sure my training improved too.
-Demo! There are SO many options to fit riding styles, fitness levels and preference. Full suspension vs hardtail, fat bikes, plus size tire bikes, 29" vs 27.5 vs 26, different travel ect. Head to a local bike shop and usually for 20 bucks you can take one out.. or our locals have demo days at trails
-I will say looking back I would have started with buying a 1200-1500 dollar used bike 2-4 years old).. you can get a high quality, light and fast bike.. so you wont hate your life every minute you are out there because your gears jam, chain skips or brakes suck lol..
I started out on a 500 dollar 2007 Fuji Tahoe (MSRP 800) hard tail and had 3 full suspensions, 2 other hard tails and a fat bike. I buy used as my budget allows and spend between 1000-2000 on each bike (and making a little money along the way). The MSRP values were between 800 and my current hard tail which is 10k (all bought when they are between 2-3 years old).
For what its worth here is my take..
-I will probably always buy used- especially when you get into the higher MSRP bikes they are usually ridden by good (and a lot of times sponsored) riders so they are really well taken care of and you can get a lot for your money and sometimes with upgrades.
-I have noticed a huge difference as I got better bikes- they are lighter (28lbs to my current is 19lbs) and better components (shifting, pedaling, braking ect) although I am sure my training improved too.
-Demo! There are SO many options to fit riding styles, fitness levels and preference. Full suspension vs hardtail, fat bikes, plus size tire bikes, 29" vs 27.5 vs 26, different travel ect. Head to a local bike shop and usually for 20 bucks you can take one out.. or our locals have demo days at trails
-I will say looking back I would have started with buying a 1200-1500 dollar used bike 2-4 years old).. you can get a high quality, light and fast bike.. so you wont hate your life every minute you are out there because your gears jam, chain skips or brakes suck lol..
Mt Ashland last weekend! Was sick!!! Shuttle with 5k decent over 16 miles
Ashland is fun! Did you shuttle to the ski lodge/summit? I think it is now shit down...? Hoping the fires recede and it reopens for the Enduro on 10/4.
Ya, shuttle with ashland mtn adventures. I heard its been called off already. Huge bummer. How are you guys doing with the fires? I heard a lot of the santa cruz trails got burnt
still pretty smoky here so I have not explored much. Sweetness is gone (bulldozed), most of Jugs burned, a few trails in Toro Park burned. We were 100 yards from the edge of the evac zone, frikkin crazy times! Ash snow and smoke like crazy. I think I inhaled a mountain lion or 2....
This is the last I heard on the CES Ashland event (Friday at 7PM):
IMPORTANT NEWS FOR Ashland Mountain Challenge RACERS
1. Ashland Mountain Adventures (the race organizer) received an order from the USFS that the Rogue River Siskiyou Mountains Ranger district is closed to all use due to fire danger. This means the Ashland trails on the Ashland Mountain Challenge race course.
That said, they are hopeful the trails will be re-opened in time for the race, and we are moving forward as if the race will indeed happen. We’ll keep you updated promptly as we receive news.
2. Pro Men and Pro Women racers: there has been a change in the schedule, and instead of racing on Sunday (Oct. 4), you’ll be racing Saturday (Oct. 3). Please adjust your plans accordingly. Junior Pro and Master Pro categories will race on Sunday, as will Experts. Beginner and Sport riders will race on Saturday.
This is the last I heard on the CES Ashland event (Friday at 7PM):
IMPORTANT NEWS FOR Ashland Mountain Challenge RACERS 1. Ashland Mountain Adventures (the race organizer) received an order from the USFS that the Rogue River Siskiyou Mountains Ranger district is closed to all use due to fire danger. This means the Ashland trails on the Ashland Mountain Challenge race course.
That said, they are hopeful the trails will be re-opened in time for the race, and we are moving forward as if the race will indeed happen. We’ll keep you updated promptly as we receive news.
2. Pro Men and Pro Women racers: there has been a change in the schedule, and instead of racing on Sunday (Oct. 4), you’ll be racing Saturday (Oct. 3). Please adjust your plans accordingly. Junior Pro and Master Pro categories will race on Sunday, as will Experts. Beginner and Sport riders will race on Saturday.
