Biodiesel

[Cowboy_80]

We seem to have gotten severely off topic in the Cummins/Duramax swap post, so here's this one.

There were a couple of posts referring to the lower power you get from running bio-diesel. Could you run propane injection to counter that? I know, it kind of offsets the idea of running bio-diesel in the first place, but it's something that you don't have to run all of the time. Maybe just run propane when you're hauling something. Is there a negative to running propane with bio-diesel?

 

[Hossbaby50]

Power loss depends on the blend of bio you run. I have run a couple tanks of B5 (5%) biodiesel and I noticed nothing different from normal diesel. Still got basically the same power & mileage out of it. If you are running B100 I hear you loose like 10% power & mileage. I would counteract that power loss with something like a chip, injectors, exhaust, or etc before I would do propane.

I run a 98.5 24V Dodge Cummins with a programmer.

Harley

 

[thebird00]

Like Hoss stated I don't think you're going to notice the powerloss unless you are running B100. Most common blends are gonna be 2, 5, and 20 percent. So even with a B20 you'll only have a 2% powerloss I suppose.

Mark

 

[thebird00]

Also I'm getting ready to make a demonstartion using a hot water heater to produce biodiesel. The hardest part about making your own is crushing the seeds for oil if your aren't using WVO(waste vegetable oil).

But I can't see using $10/bushel soybean to produce your biodiesel. Conola is the hot item now but I'm not sure of that cost. Palm oil is the highest oil producer per acre that they have been looking at, I think between 1400 to 2000 gallon of oil per acre. Soybeans make about 90 gallon and acre on the high end.

Same thing as ethanol. Corn will never be feasible especially with the amount we already use for livestock feed. Cellulose from switch grass will be our ethanol source once they find the enzyeme to break it down.

Mark

 

[SUBFAN]

The power produced from bio diesels depends on where it came from. We get a bio diesel from Clinton Ia that is made with 10% animal fat, is crystal clear, and gives the same performance as regular diesel, even at 100% - as tested by my 'seat dyno.'

Very good stuff IMO...

 

[thebird00]

Yeah they are using some chicken and hog fat here in NC. I visited Piedmont Biofuels a while back but can't remember what they said about the animal fats.

 

[MaxPF]

Also I'm getting ready to make a demonstartion using a hot water heater to produce biodiesel. The hardest part about making your own is crushing the seeds for oil if your aren't using WVO(waste vegetable oil).

But I can't see using $10/bushel soybean to produce your biodiesel. Conola is the hot item now but I'm not sure of that cost. Palm oil is the highest oil producer per acre that they have been looking at, I think between 1400 to 2000 gallon of oil per acre. Soybeans make about 90 gallon and acre on the high end.

Same thing as ethanol. Corn will never be feasible especially with the amount we already use for livestock feed. Cellulose from switch grass will be our ethanol source once they find the enzyeme to break it down.

Mark

Algae is by far the highest yield plant material for making biofuel. It has the added advantage that neither arable land nor (depending on the algae used) fresh water are required, so algae farms for biofuel production don't compete with farmland used for food crops.

 

[Oilbrnr]

Algae is by far the highest yield plant material for making biofuel. It has the added advantage that neither arable land nor (depending on the algae used) fresh water are required, so algae farms for biofuel production don't compete with farmland used for food crops.

Too bad GW and friends don't want you to know that fact though...

 

[BKinzey]

Why wouldn't you want to use WVO? The cost dramatically drops using Waste.

I'd also like to know about using hemp oil. It's another use of the "evil" plant.

 

[Oilbrnr]

Nothing wrong with WVO if you have a reliable supply, but it is not a viable replacement for average joe consumer.

Mucho politico going on here.

 

[thebird00]

The main problem with WVO is that "producers" will start charging for it as the demand increases.