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ryoken

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ok, I miss having access to a blast cabinet and am considering one...

here's is what I'm looking for... I want one that I can hook my shop vac up to... i'd rather have a floor standing unit and as big as possible... it doesn't need to be any fancy top opening one...

BUT, I want to keep this around $300 to 400 or so... I don't want a $900 one and I don't want to buy a dust collection system...

I had looked at smaller benchtop $100, 150 type ones, but it doesn't seem any come with a dust collection port...

anyone got a link to good bang for the buck ones? I read pretty good things about the Cyclone PK36 http://www.google.com/shopping/prod...&sa=X&ei=TN7hUIrHFcSq0AGp24Fo&ved=0CGYQ8wIwAQ


but I'm not sure if it has a dust collection port.... the price is right, at $275..

anyone have a cabinet that hooks to a vac? i forget if the dust collectors are just a hole/pipe near the top with a spaced off deflector so sand doesn't go right in it, or if it's something more than that...
 
I had pretty much that exact blast cabinet for a short while. Sold it cause it leaked like a sive all around the rubber seals and vents. I've had three cabinets over the years, one new, the one in your link and two used ones that I refurbished. My two refurbished one worked much better then that Cyclone did. Plastic cabinets are the most affordable cabinets, but their quality is poor IMHO. Steel cabinets are very good but expensive and out of your budget range. This is about the going rate for a steel affordable cabinet. My buddy had this one, works decent for a siphon feed. There is also the option of building yourown. Found lots of plans for building them, do a google search.

http://www.amazon.com/Econoline-101694G-A-Abrasive-Blast-Cabinet/dp/B007H9PFZM
 
yeah, I had a suspicion that was gonna be the case... I'd really like one with a foot pedal too.... I did a bit more research on the cyclone, and yeah complaints about the seals, lighting, gun, gloves, etc..

I thought I remember someone a pretty long time ago in here finding a company that you could get quality components at a pretty good price.. like 5, 600 for a pretty good standup setup...

I really can't envision making one, by the time I hunted down all the materials, I don't have a brake, etc, it wouldn't be worth it... I'd even up this to 500 for a something with decent quality components.. but everything is thing, china made, Walmart type junk these days it seems...

eh, I'll research some more.... maybe I can come up with a way to make something...
 
hmmmm, just saw one made out of wood.... :eek1: :popcorn:


that would certainly be easy and cheaper to make...
 
I use a blasting cabinet from Graingers, using just a shop vac does a poor job keeping the inside clear. I need to buy a dust collector for it.
 
I know we all have our own budget on something like this, but after having three siphon feed cabinets I'll gladly spend a pretty penny on a pressure pot type and as large a cabinet as my space allows and my pocket book can afford. IF I could afford ANY cabinet, the link below is the style, maybe not the brand but the type I would get. It's a pressure pot type but with it built in underneath. This is THE best type you can buy IMHO. It's reloads the pressure pot with the push of a foot pedal. No need to dump it into a tub, then transfer the grit to a pot outside the machine. No mess and dust to breath in and deal with.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EC...6YY21&ef_id=UMVHaQAAFwLkw857:20130101184609:s
 
rdn2blazer said:
I know we all have our own budget on something like this, but after having three siphon feed cabinets I'll gladly spend a pretty penny on a pressure pot type and as large a cabinet as my space allows and my pocket book can afford. IF I could afford ANY cabinet, the link below is the style, maybe not the brand but the type I would get. It's a pressure pot type but with it built in underneath. This is THE best type you can buy IMHO. It's reloads the pressure pot with the push of a foot pedal. No need to dump it into a tub, then transfer the grit to a pot outside the machine. No mess and dust to breath in and deal with.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EC...6YY21&ef_id=UMVHaQAAFwLkw857:20130101184609:s
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That's a very nice setup.:waytogo:
 
rdn2blazer said:
I know we all have our own budget on something like this, but after having three siphon feed cabinets I'll gladly spend a pretty penny on a pressure pot type and as large a cabinet as my space allows and my pocket book can afford. IF I could afford ANY cabinet, the link below is the style, maybe not the brand but the type I would get. It's a pressure pot type but with it built in underneath. This is THE best type you can buy IMHO. It's reloads the pressure pot with the push of a foot pedal. No need to dump it into a tub, then transfer the grit to a pot outside the machine. No mess and dust to breath in and deal with.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EC...6YY21&ef_id=UMVHaQAAFwLkw857:20130101184609:s
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I'm all about pressurized blasting, but that's WAY over the top.. if I owned a biz, yeah, or won the lottery.... :eek1:


I really may do the wood build your own.... i can get all the components for just under 300.. foot pedal, gun, hoses, gloves, window and seals, etc... I like building sh*t outta wood, soooooo much easier than dealing with steel... :haha: he!!, look at Mutt! :pimp:


I can build it whatever size, and I'm sure with a bit of tweaking and customizing, I can get it working better than a $1000 unit...

I'm gonna see about working this into january's budget... I REALLY could have used it the last week refurbing my lathe...
 
I think I have a good idea, let me run it buy ya. And I too think I may do a wood build as well thinking about this Idea. You can stray bed liner on wood, so have it sprayed with a light color like lite gray inside and out. It will be rot and water proof, would be fairly cheap to have sprayed. And being light colored will have good light reflection inside to aluminate the inside compartment well. And, being somewhat "Rubberized", will lessen the wear on the media and lengthen the cut time, or part quantity you can blast before you think it's time to change the media, and in the end will save money as compared to a steel unit.

Thats it, what do you think?

P.S. And you can make it a pressure pot style yourself, just by buying a pressure pot stand alone unit and integrating it to the blast cabinet.
 
initially i wasn't gonna do the inside... wood, as well as rubber, hold up exceptionally well to blasting.. thats how we used to do mixer/car parts back in the day with the 1000 lb'er, screw/nail em to plywood... but now that you bring it up, here's what i'm thinking.... I'm gonna gelcoat it inside and out... white on the inside, gray on the outside... that'll hold up killer..

it'll just be much cheaper for me than a catalyzed bedliner would be... but i bet that would work well too...

I may pull the trigger on the kit over the next week or so... gotta figure out finances and priorities.. List time.... :doah: :haha:
 
I wasnt gonna post anything on this for fear of scolding, but since u mentioned wood... :whistle:

This was the first cad drawing I put to life. I drew it and me and Mr. Clean built it. Something like $50 was spent. We planned on lining it with sheet metal from work that we get 4'x8' sheets of for making duct. But never did find any gloves for it that would work so it never got finished.

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Also I grabbed an exhaust fan from a ln old furnace at work and was gonna run some venting outside through some sort of filter bag.

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How much you gonna use it? I bought a HF one. Works great for me. I just sealed up all the mating surfaces. I also hooked my shop vac to it. I bought the warranty 8 years ago. The gloves finally tore. I went in to buy another pair and HF saw I bought warranty and gave me a brand new unit :eek1: I'm not an advocate for HF by aaanny means but on this deal I made out. Gun has held up fine, I just buy tips. I've ran soda through it but it clogs my filter fast. I run medium grit now with no issues. I've replaced the plexiglass with real glass. I go to local glass shop and buy like 5 pieces for 8-10 bucks.
 
ryoken said:
hmmm, this one has potential...... these guys look like a good source for parts at a minimum..


http://www.tptools.com/p/432,53_780-TL-Top-Load-Abrasive-Blast-Cabinet.html
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I have that exact unit, in fact I have had it twice I like it so much.

I also have the soda blaster hanging off the side and the lower tray.

I have used the **** out of it.

I would go ahead and buy another light so you will have two, one in each of the rear corners.

I even bought my Quincy Air Compressor from them

I had HUGE issues with the shipping company, but Carmen with TPTools made it right.
 
ryoken said:
initially i wasn't gonna do the inside... wood, as well as rubber, hold up exceptionally well to blasting.. thats how we used to do mixer/car parts back in the day with the 1000 lb'er, screw/nail em to plywood... but now that you bring it up, here's what i'm thinking.... I'm gonna gelcoat it inside and out... white on the inside, gray on the outside... that'll hold up killer..

it'll just be much cheaper for me than a catalyzed bedliner would be... but i bet that would work well too...

I may pull the trigger on the kit over the next week or so... gotta figure out finances and priorities.. List time.... :doah: :haha:
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I had sheet rubber lining two of mine and yes it holds up great. Gel-coat would be great to use and since you work with it might as well use what you can get for free or cheap. White inside is the best color for being able to see fur sure. I'd still line with rubber though. Course grit will still cut the gel-coat. One of the blast cabinets I had was a fiberglass cabinet. It was infact an old aquious aqua-blast cabinet. I converted it to a dry cabinet. It was HUGE and I score it off one of my old machine shops for $75 bucks. They were not using it any more and it was just sitting out in the yard. Spent about $100 on it to convert it to dry and it worked good. But it was still a siphon unit so I sold it. Actually made money on it. Sold it for $500.
 
Hey ryoken, I see you are in Jersey. you can have mine for free if you are close to Long Island, NY. I got it from Eastwood about 17 years ago, i used it a couple of times, and it just sat in my shed ever since then. i just blast in the driveway now, and push the used media into the street with the garden hose. My cabinet is in the way on my deck, and i cant see using it again. It just needs a set of gloves, the mice chewed up the old ones years ago.

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doonjumper said:
How much you gonna use it? I bought a HF one. Works great for me. I just sealed up all the mating surfaces. I also hooked my shop vac to it. I bought the warranty 8 years ago. The gloves finally tore. I went in to buy another pair and HF saw I bought warranty and gave me a brand new unit :eek1: I'm not an advocate for HF by aaanny means but on this deal I made out. Gun has held up fine, I just buy tips. I've ran soda through it but it clogs my filter fast. I run medium grit now with no issues. I've replaced the plexiglass with real glass. I go to local glass shop and buy like 5 pieces for 8-10 bucks.
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I'd use it fairly frequent more than likely.. as you guys can imagine, clean steel is a priority from me... coming from the guy that spent 10 hrs smoothing a 205... :doah: :pimp:

I really could have used it during my lathe rebuild for all the parts.. I ended up wirewheeling everything, but would have preferred blasting..

I had access to one for about 8 yrs up till 4 yrs ago... and when it wasn't working well, and you couldn't see sh*t, or it wasn't drawing media, it sucked... I'd like to have whatever I do, work pretty well and be a pleasure to use.. I can keep tweaking it as needed...

I think the homebrew method is definitely gonna be the route... I like the idea of controlling the size... not so much taller or deeper, but maybe wider for longer parts you couldn't normally get in a cabinet.. even if you had to stop and spin it around to do the other 1/2...
 
Width is exactly why I want to build my own as well. I have seen some that are normal depth and height, but wide enough with four arm holes and gloves for long parts. The blast gun is just longer to reach where needed. Thats what I'm looking to buy or build.
 
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