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blew up my rear, need help

GMCJason said:
The only problem is I don't think the 88-91 (or any year) 3/4 ton burbs ever came with a 6-lug axle. They did indeed have the 14BSF but they are 8 lug - never seen one with 6 lugs.

You may be correct. I have never seen one, I have just heard that they supposedly exist. Who knows :dunno: If he has access to a welder, then he can simply get one out from under a NBS truck and move the perches and shock mounts like I did. Maybe his shop teacher will let him use the equipment :wink1:
 
i dont know if this is a stupid question or not, but if i buy a set of 8 lug rallies will they somehow line up with the 6 lug in the front?
 
oh and, our old shop was burnt down so we have EVERYTHING you could ever need, so relocating shock mounts and perches wouldnt be a problem.
 
No, to your first question. But, since you have the necessary equipment (and, I presume, skills?) to relocate perches and shock mounts, then all you need to do is scour your local junkyards for a 6-lug 14 bolt with the gear ratio you need. Then with a little :hack: :grind: :weld: you will be good to go :waytogo:
 
Hey man i just baught a 14bff with 4.56 gears and a dtroit locker brand new for 750$ bolts right in! the guy he lives in VA he has many more! so look him up shakerbuilt.com he sells um on ebay
 
i cant seem to find any 14 bolt semi floaters for under 600$ (i went through the whole darn phonebook) but i have been able to locate a few full floaters , the thing is if i purchase a 14 bolt full floater ill have to change my wheels, i just bought a pair bfg 35,15,12.5 all terrains ,now i cant seem to find any 15 inch wheels with an 8 lug pattern. if i get a full floater where can i find a pair of 8 lug 15" (i just dropped 600$ on tires and ive only driven them 150 miles:(
 
sweet, are all those wheels for trucks? and do i have to get a new front axle if im gonna run 8 lugs or is their someway around that?
 
Look here in the tech section.

http://coloradok5.com/8lugconversion.shtml


P.S. If the gears are different in the new axle, then it might be cheaper to just buy the matching front axle. By the time you buy all the stuff to convert it, to might be close to the price for a new axle. Then you can either sell your old front, or keep it for the spare axle shafts.
 
lunchbox said:
i cant seem to find any 14 bolt semi floaters for under 600$ (i went through the whole darn phonebook) but i have been able to locate a few full floaters , the thing is if i purchase a 14 bolt full floater ill have to change my wheels, i just bought a pair bfg 35,15,12.5 all terrains ,now i cant seem to find any 15 inch wheels with an 8 lug pattern. if i get a full floater where can i find a pair of 8 lug 15" (i just dropped 600$ on tires and ive only driven them 150 miles:(

You're gonna have to hit your local pull-it-yourself parts yards to find one for a reasonable amount of money. I found mine at Ecology here in Phoenix (another CK5er found it, actually, and let me know about it). There are several Ecology parts yards in Commiefornia, not to mention about a zillion other pull-it-yourself yards. These are the ones to go to. Ask for prices BEFORE you pull the axle, otherwise you may wind up with some bad news :doah:. FWIW, I paid $140 for mine, which includes a stupid core charge that they like to tack on. You shouldn't have a problem scoring one for under $200, and the only other things you will need to install it (besides moving the perches if necessary, of course) are a conversion u-joint, brake shoes (unless the ones on the new rear are good) and possibly a new brake hose. Definitely cheaper than buying new wheels, converting the front to 8 lugs, etc.

Now for a reality check: if you plan on going to tires bigger than 37's or 38's and you like to beat the crap out of it, then you may want to bite the bullet and put a 14bff in there. The bottom line is to be realistic about how you will use your truck and how much money you have to spend.
 
im going to the pick and pull on saturday, is their any way i can use the vin or something to find out what gears it has, is their a way i can crack it open and tell?
 
Check craigslist. What gears are you running? I've got a 12 bolt with 4.10 that will be coming out soon. you can have it for 50 bucks. It has 1st gen spacing on the perches and mounts though.
 
Wow. This thread has really gotten away on a tangent. Yes, 14 bolts are great. It's really hard to break them and they are relatively cheap. This guy is in high school and broke his axle - a 12 bolt (with matched gear ratio for the front axle) for almost nothing is what he needs. This is not a project truck. Any junkyard has them...really...for almost nothing. 14 bolts are a little more (like $100), but there are variations and you gotta be careful, and they do not bolt up like a 10b or 12b. This guy should not be worrying about changing driveshafts, spring perches, or anything like that.

I don't want to be a dick, and I assume (and hope) you've learned this already: If you are in high school and strapped for cash, do not flog your primary source of transportation. You will break it, and you can't afford that. If you can afford it do whatever the hell you want. I can't say I'd have listened to this in my day, but there it is...

If you pull the differential cover on any GM axle, the number of gear teeth on the ring and pinion are stamped on the ring gear - just turn it until you see the numbers. They are the last sets of numbers in the string.

Example: blah blah blah 41 9
4.56:1 ratio (divide 9 into 41)
 
well, i went to the pick and pull today and yanked a 10 bolt so i can at least drive my truck to school and work. but im still gonna be looking for a stronger axle, whats the deal with 12 bolts? what did they come in ? and could one handle my lead foot with 35's ? ( but i think i learned my lesson the first time , no wheeling trails that a built jeep had a hard time doing):doah:
 
Dollar wise and pound foolish to keep replacing parts that you break. The 12 is not significantly stronger than a 10, if at all. If you plan on beating it hard (and you apparently do) then be careful now until you can replace.

Since you've got something that works for the moment, just save up your money, and keep your eyes out for a good deal on a 6 lug 14SF, maybe another front 10 bolt if the gearing is different. Obviously important to know what you've got before you start buying stuff! But no worries about changing the wheels, the brakes fit, and you've apparently got the tools to change the perches and shock mounts. With a lift, slip yoke driveshaft (assuming that) you can probably afford to "decrease" driveline length by the approximate 1" the 14SF takes up.

I think you'll do better finding a 14sf being sold by private individuals, craigslist, thrifty nickel, whatever you've got for cheap/free parts for sale listing, and if you become a member here, post up in the parts wanted section and watch the parts for sale section. Look at the '88+ 1/2 and 3/4 ton C/K (not our bodystyle) trucks. Our local wrecking yards, after pushing the "cheap" ones out of business (or was it the state imposing expensive mitigation projects on autowreckers?) are now super expensive for even the most common axles, generally around $3-500 even for a 10 bolt truck rear, when they are worth about $50.

It's my opinion, but it will save you money in the long run if you intend to run hard and keep the rig for awhile. Spend the money up front, (or save up to get good parts) don't nickel and dime yourself over the years.

My friend has run 12 bolts for years and never really had a problem with them until now, but all the time looking for a 6 lug 14SF. I found one from a member on here, which is now in the process of being put under his truck. I think he may have paid around $250 for it, and didn't have to change anything on his truck to run it, (correct gear ratio) just some time and gas to go get it.
 
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