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BLM has hidden cameras
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79rustyk10
3/4 ton status
Sounds like good news to me.
punished for.......?
Aren't they gated for a reason?
That's the big question. Are they closed for the right reasons. If you hunt the same place for generation and now its closed. But if your a oil n gas company. You can bring your dozer and cut new roads. 2/3 of blm will be closed to us. I've been driving these trails sense the 70's
Colorado hmmm...maybe they are watching for pot growers...thats a big problem in national parks in other states like CA..if they happen to catch a few wheelers and fine them in the process,thats just another feather in their cap..
79rustyk10
3/4 ton status
I'm not a fan of the whole nanny state, but if someone illegally uses a gated trail, and gets busted I can't really feel sorry for them. Stuff like that is why so many trails are being closed. That's half the reason my truck is probably getting parted out, there's nowhere within 6 hours to go with the exception of mud.
Why were these trails shut down?
Why were these trails shut down?
Something isn't right here.
One I thought that any time there is "video monitoring" there is supposed to be warning.
Second is, I have never seen a "BLM' gate that was meant to be open and closed by a user unless is was a special permitted trial. (Coyote Canyon in Moab as an example) I have seen plenty of ranch gates and stuff on BLM land which is where the "leave the gate as you found it" routine came about.
I know that the new Travel Management plans and actions are happening right now so maybe your the victim of not knowing what was getting closed etc. There are a lot of documented cases where the BLM road maps didn't include their own roads that weren't in common use for the last decade of so.
If your friend went on a closed road or opened a gate a trespassed on private property then they should get a fine, Hell I've had two fines for fires that I felt were correctly out but the BLM ranger didn't and I had nothing I could do short of court and that was more time and expense than the fine.
One I thought that any time there is "video monitoring" there is supposed to be warning.
Second is, I have never seen a "BLM' gate that was meant to be open and closed by a user unless is was a special permitted trial. (Coyote Canyon in Moab as an example) I have seen plenty of ranch gates and stuff on BLM land which is where the "leave the gate as you found it" routine came about.
I know that the new Travel Management plans and actions are happening right now so maybe your the victim of not knowing what was getting closed etc. There are a lot of documented cases where the BLM road maps didn't include their own roads that weren't in common use for the last decade of so.
If your friend went on a closed road or opened a gate a trespassed on private property then they should get a fine, Hell I've had two fines for fires that I felt were correctly out but the BLM ranger didn't and I had nothing I could do short of court and that was more time and expense than the fine.
Yep
I have driving into a few questionable fields in the middle of the night before while roaming our fire roads and such. Scary feeling.
dahreno
Registered Member
I have been to several places in Cali. where you pay the BLM, of forest service and they give you a code to the locked gate. You unlock the gate to go in, and lock it behind you. There are a lot of places where I live I wish they had hidden cameras. I wish they would photo, then shoot the idiots who go out there to dump trash because they don't want to pay the dump. We go out several times a year with 30 to 50 people picking up these peoples trash. We have the local trash company donate the biggest dumpsters they have, and they also empty them several times a day while we are picking up the trash.
Yeah thats bull.... I hate that. PICK UP YOUR TRASH. Every time I've gone camping I pick up other people's trash.
I never thought it would come to cameras. Thats sad.
haven't seen it for myself, on the mesa they charge you to dump your trash. Sure thats not going to work , they'll just toss it out there windows.
I never thought it would come to cameras. Thats sad.
haven't seen it for myself, on the mesa they charge you to dump your trash. Sure thats not going to work , they'll just toss it out there windows.
Let me know the next time you go out for this!
KTMtalk.com has a thread on this too. Just another nail in the coffin for dirt dike and off road land usage 
