I bought this from Timmay when he first started selling them, its the exact same one ORD sells. If you think ORD makes it, think what you like. One of the bolts is Grade 5, I misplaced the one grade 8 bolt. You could easily take it to a store and get a new one, my Lowes didn't have a Grade 8 in the right size when I needed it. Nothing wrong with this thing, junking my Suburban and have no use for it. $75 + shipping Check my feedback in that forum if you like, I do my best to take care of buyers.