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Bringing the monster mudders back from the dead

twoslo4five0

twoslo4five0

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Picked these 44s (on 5 lug 15x12 ford wheels) up for 180 bucks. The guy I bought them from bought them brand new 30 years ago lol.

Before and after, 1 #16 blade for both tires on the van alstien, 40 degress in the shop while doing this.
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A set came up on CL by me in the 38.5" variety for 600 with beadlocks. how hard are they? Thinking I can get them as I already have beadlocks.
 
Very freaking hard. I wouldn't pay anywere close to even half of 600, to bad you aren't closer I'm selling my 5 grooved tsl radials for 650.

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Had a set of 44'' gumbo mudders on my blazer a few years ago. luckily I was right down the street when one gave out and limped it home. Driving with a completely flat 44 was quite the sight..:doah: Learned my lesson though to not drive on dry rotted 25 year old tires! They were awesome in the mud even to be as bald as they were though, but hard as a concrete wall...

 
I've read that liquid laundry starch works better than Slime to seal up old dry rotted tires and punctures,on a tractor forum that many members used on their tractors and are very satisfied with the results..its cheaper than Slime and wont make a mess inside the tires,it washes out easily and supposedly wont rust the rims up like some claim Slime will too..any supermarket has it..

I never heard of using Aluma-Seal or Bars-Leaks in tires,I figured that stuff needs heat to dry it and set it up..but I guess it'll work,according to those who tried it...
 
At my previous job we did automotive testing and did a project for Slime. I was very impressed with how well it did. You could actually drill a 3/8" hole in the tire and it would seal it, and handle a puncture up to 1/2". Since then have always recommended it's use and have had good luck. I have dismounted several tires with Slime installed and have never found any issues with rust on the rims and really wasn't much of a mess at all. It doesn't get hard and sticky like some of the other fix-a-flats and just wiped out with a rag. There is really not that much Slime in a tire either. With the recommended amount there was just a thin film on the. Here are some examples:

My tandem axle car trailer - had Slime in all 4 tires for probably 4-5 years. No rust on the steel rims and no mess when dismounting them (tires were worn out)

Dad's ATV tires - had Slime in them since probably early 2000's so around 8-9 years old when I replaced them. Same as above, no rust and no issues with Slime making a mess running out of the tires or anything.

Dad's zero turn mower - had a 2" sidewall cut from running into something 5-6 years ago. I shoved about 4 plugs in it and it still leaked, so put Slime in it. No problems since and zero turn mowers put a lot of stress on the sidewalls since they are always pivoting around. Put new tires on this summer and the same as above.
 
AR_K5 said:
I would have tried maybe a tube first.
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Also very expensive. I will go the cheap route first if that doesn't work I will go to a tube. Tubes range from 40 to 60 bucks for a tire this large and you have to worry about them chafing in the wheel.
 
diesel4me said:
I've read that liquid laundry starch works better than Slime to seal up old dry rotted tires and punctures,on a tractor forum that many members used on their tractors and are very satisfied with the results..its cheaper than Slime and wont make a mess inside the tires,it washes out easily and supposedly wont rust the rims up like some claim Slime will too..any supermarket has it..

I never heard of using Aluma-Seal or Bars-Leaks in tires,I figured that stuff needs heat to dry it and set it up..but I guess it'll work,according to those who tried it...
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I read on that for a while, does it not freeze?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Bars Leak just heavily diluted liquid glass with copper shavings.

If so liquid glass doesn't require heat to set, just air.
You can get it at most pharmacies.

I would think the antifreeze trick would double as an automatic tire balancer too similar to "balancing beads". I have never tried it personally but it sounds like a neat concept.
 
Look sort of like mine...also 44's How tall do yours measure out? Mine come in at 43". I'm not sure how wide the rims are, I'd guess 12". My sidewalls are still in good shape. All four have been holding air since I brought them home. The guy I got mine from cut them.

 
twoslo4five0 said:
I read on that for a while, does it not freeze?
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I have not heard anyone say it froze yet...never tried it myself --yet!..but I have a few leaky tires I'd like to try it on...on my lawn tractors I'd try it first..


One front tire on my truck likes losing air overnight suddenly ,then wont lose 1 lb for weeks after I fill up back up...always when I need to hop in the truck and use it,is when it decides to lose air --one night before a deep snow I checked it,had 50 lbs in it...next morning--flat as a flounder..filled it back up,three weeks later it still has 50 lbs in it..cant see any bubbles anywhere using the soapy water test either--no bead leaks,no weepy valve stem..

I have seen posts on the tractor forum where some guys rims were badly corroded & rusted,supposedly by Slime,but I have my doubts--my brother races a Honda Accord on frozen ponds and has used tires he "studded" with over 200 tap-con concrete screws installed from the inside,with a flat washer on the inside and outside of the tire,with the sharp end sticking out of the tire 2"--a 1/4" nut is "stripped" onto each screw to secure it...

He uses about a quart of Slime per tire,and he has not only won many races using these studded tires in place of the usual chains,that tore the spider gears and axles up every season,and can pass and lap other cars in the banked turns!...he was surprised to run the whole season on one set of such tires without a flat,using the Slime!..he hasn't seen any rust inside the rims on his either...maybe old Slime formula was corrosive and they improved it,who knows...
 
toomany said:
Look sort of like mine...also 44's How tall do yours measure out? Mine come in at 43". I'm not sure how wide the rims are, I'd guess 12". My sidewalls are still in good shape. All four have been holding air since I brought them home. The guy I got mine from cut them.

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mine measure 41 flat on 15x12s. Kinda makes me happy as I don't really have the drivetrain for anything over a 42 so it works out.

Let me know how the side lugs work out, every tire ive ever cut the outer lugs on seems to rip the lugs off fairly quickly so I no longer cut the side lugs.
 
It'll be a little while before I get them on there and out in the dirt. I don't currently have the drivetrain (or height, but that's another story) for them either. I bought a D60 from the same guy. Going through that right now. Locker, bearings, seals, etc... Hope to have it together to get a run out in the snow before it all melts.

He said they hadn't been run since they were cut. I believe him too, the edges are still sharp/square.
 
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