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Bumper mount issues / frame cut

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Hey guys,
So, the previous owner did a number on my baby. For some reason, they hacked the front of the frame. Obviously, the bumper is barely hanging on now...

What would you recommend that I do to fix this so that I can get the bumper back on correctly?

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Best thing to do would be find another frame and cut the front pieces off and weld them on yours. Welcome to the world of fixing PO's screw ups on a first gen...
 
X2. Any 69-72 frame should work. Theres lots of decent truck frames in wrecking yards around here.


-Brian
 
To make your life easier cut the donor frame back behind a set of factory holes that still exist on your butchered frame. That way you can use them as an "index" to know exactly how far the frame horns need to extend to be 100% faithful to the original.

I don't know if you plan on running a body lift, but if you do the frame horns will need to be cut off or modified anyway to fit the bumper correctly. No point repairing that damage only to cut it right back off again.....



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Hey Greg,
I actually currently do have a 3 inch body lift. Maybe that is why it was cut?

Wierd thing is, they tried to mount the bumber on the frame again, not lift it up to match the body...

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I am going to remove the body lift, so I will probably need to go the welding route.
 
Alright guys,
So I have called the 8 wrecking yards that are in my county and they all practically laughed at me, stating that that 69-72s are extremely hard to find. One guy actually told me that if anything like that ever came in, he buys them himself to resell.

So...
I went to a welding shop and found a guy that was interested in fixing the frame. He just needs dimensions on how it should be (or was at factory).

Do you guys have any specs, measurements, or pictures that might help me out?

...anyone have a frame that they can botch? I will buy the frame horns off of you ;)

Thanks!
 
More info:

I have these brackets that the PO gave me:

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Are these the correct brackets? How is the bumper suppose to mount to the frame (factory)?
 
If you unbolt the bumper and then try to fit it into the proper position (which slightly overhangs the lower lip of the grille -> BTW) it will be obvious why the framehorns were cut. The lower side of the bumper will hit the frame and you'll never get the bumper to tuck in correctly.

Personally, I think it might be more trouble than it's worth to try to do a 100% factory restoration in a case like this..... (I don't have front frame horns on mine either, in case you haven't already noticed) :wink1:

If you are new to fabrication, building some custom bumper mount brackets are a great first project... You will get to cut metal, practice welding and creating a bolt-on adapter to merge the bumper to the frame. As long as the welds are strong, it really doesn't matter if they look a little ugly. Once you're done with it you will probably paint it black anyway so they will barely be visible at all.

Depending on your desires, you can also build yourself a "hidden hitch" at this point....another good starter project.

By the way, the stuff I've learned about metalworking and fabrication all came from my build (and obviously studying what others have done). One of the reasons my build has taken so long is because almost everything that I've done also required me to buy new tools and learn new skills at the same time. If I ever decided to do another truck build (not likely!) the whole process would go a LOT faster next time around.

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post a wanted ad in the sale section here for front frame horns from a 69-72 and see if anyone can get you a set or has a set.
 
So I am getting more comfortable with my grinder and I built some brackets for my botched frame horns!

Better pics below...

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Looks better than before but it's still 1" too low....

You'll need to add a 1" spacer under those factory tabs to compensate for the ORD body lift. Then the bumper will slightly overlap the lowest part of the grille.



EDIT: Like this..... see how the top of the bumper actually covers and hides part of the bottom grille?

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Note: That was when I still had a 2" body lift on there....so the frame horns are actually visible under the bumper due to the BL.


-G
 
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