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Car hauler axle idea

Agreed..

I made a "car hauler" with my co-worker at the junkyard,from a set of drive on ramps from an old car lift,and two rear "tube"axles from FWD Caddilac Eldorados from the 70's..we cut and widened the axles--used the heavy wall pipe from the lift the ramps came from to stretch them....just happenned to fit perfect..

We made it with no springs (dead axle),and it was made mostly of channel iron and pipe..(the frame)..the tounge was pirated from the office trailer parked in the yard for decades--had a 2-5/16" coupler!:laugh: ...even found a ball to match on a junked pickup's bumper..I think we had 25 bucks total into it for welding rods..rest was free scrap from the yard!..

Did it tow good?--I'd say yes!--we towed a 69 Camaro to NH to the drag races and back,it towed and tracked very well--for having NO suspension,I was suprised how good it rode!..but it was scary when trying to stop quickly with no brakes hooked up..the axles still had calipers and rotors,but no master cylinder to actuate them..the rear of our 3/4 ton tow rig was shoved sideways at a stoplight ,during a quick stop on the way home!:eek1: ..nothing happenned,but we both needed clean shorts when we got home!.(I felt the rear of the truck come right off the ground!):yikes: .

It weighed about 2000+ lbs empty!..(we weighed it on the scrap scales!)--so,to be legal here,we could only add 1000 lbs more without brakes..adding the brakes and getting them working would be another 150 bucks I'd guess..and another days work..plus trailers need titles here now too,over a certain GVW...:(

Then,another guy borrowed and used it once,to tow a car home he bought from the junkyard....he got pulled over because the taillights were out on one side..the state cop didn't like the looks of the trailer at all..he cited the guy for having no brakes,and said "dead axles are name DEAD for a reason--I'm not sure,but I think they are not legal!--and you could at least PAINT it!":blush: ...(it was rusty scrap fresh from the pile--we hadn't gotten around to painting it yet!)..I think the fines came to over 100 bucks!..:(

So,we spent a few weeks of welding,cutting,fabbing,and getting tired and dirty...for not much satisfaction..sure,it will haul cars..but your butt could get hauled to jail for using it here too(your laws may vary!)..

A few weeks later someone junked a better trailer (factory made) than what we had built!:doah: --it only needed rims,tires,and new decking..had brakes that were rusty,but we got them working..I'm not sure if my co-worker kept the other one we made,or not..

I'd only build small utility trailers from now on..anything big enough to haul cars ,or anything heavier,should be BOUGHT, not built in my opinion,unless you have lots of time,money,and free labor..not that it can't be done,and done right..I just feel its a toss up as far as cost VS time and end results..

I like ramp trucks better than trailers anyway,even though they are more costly to register and insure,and need lots of maintenence..I'm not a fan of towing trailers really..:crazy:
 
[I'd only build small utility trailers from now on..anything big enough to haul cars ,or anything heavier,should be BOUGHT, not built in my opinion,unless you have lots of time,money,and free labor..not that it can't be done,and done right..I just feel its a toss up as far as cost VS time and end results..

I don't understand when people say things like this.......do you people think that when you buy things that it comes from some manufacturing "GOD" or something? If you have ever been in a mass producing factory or whatever and saw some of the schmucks that are building that stuff you would have different thoughts. I bet a $20 spot that it is some migrate worker that could give a **** less that you get pulled over or kill someone with a ****ed up trailer. No one will take the time to build it right like you would yourself. Ok, I'm done.....my $.02!!
 
The flip side is that unless you take the time to educate yourself on how to properly build a trailer you end up building something that looks stout enough for the job, and STILL be a danger to others on the road. Northern Tool sells two good books on how to build a trailer. I highly recommend that anyone thinking of building their own trailer buy and read both of them.
 
well---

I DID say at the end of that paragraph "I'm not saying it can't be done ,and done right"--I see you left that part out..

While I agree there are probably many factory built trailers that are built shoddily too,at least if you buy one and it fails,and someone gets injured or worse..its liability does not fall all on YOUR shoulders..I'd carefully inspect ANY trailer,new,used,factory built or otherwise,before buying or using it..

I'm sure there are many trailers like the one I described in my last post build at home that have towed many things thousands of trouble free miles..I agree sometimes your own work is superior to something built in a hurry on an assembly line basis..

But just as many cobbed homebuilt ones have caused accidents and deaths..they didn't pass all the laws against them around here just because they felt like it..

I also agree anyone attempting to build one use those blueprints as suggested --proven designs that work--and make sure your welding ability is up to snuff..even good welds can break..I still say for the amount of time,labor,and cost of materials,a new,or good used trailer that needs a bit of tinkering is a better bargain...:crazy:
 
BigBurban350 said:
Car hauler axle idea....

One 14bff or D60 housing with 2 offset dually rims on the outside.

Will this axle housing handle 3 tons?
Do the axle shafts add to strenght?
Will a trailer toung with hydralic breaking work with the big drum brakes?

Thank you for the input on this crazy idea.

mobile home axels are CHEAP


Not to mention palces such as auto safty house here in az sell's a new tire and rim for them for under 50 bucks!

dont try to reinvent the wheel..I saw a few 14 bolt and a dana 70 home brew trailer while I was doing trailer work last year, just seems like more headache then it is worth unless you are just hacking a truck in half.
 
err....

Our wonderful state frowns upon using mobile home axles too...not sure why..maybe because most are 10' wide,and have to be cut and narrowed to be road legal..I think its because they are cheap,and readily available!..

I've never seen one fail,though many are built of scary metals and are only intended to haul a mobile home once from its factory (usually in Indiana!) to its final resting place..the 14.5" tires are a bit hard to come by,and I'm not sure,but they may be illegal here also..

The mobile home frames are kind of scary too..I had one 50' long--its frame rails were "I" beams about 12" high,but they were only 1/8" thick--I could flex them with my bare hands...:eek1: -- I intended to make it into a car hauler,but decided against it after reading the laws in my state,and from others who already had them and some of the stories I heard about them getting hassled with them while pulling their stock cars home from the racetracks..

Seems like they are making outlaws of all of us who want to build our own trailers,and many other things around here...:crazy:
 
best thing about buying a manufactured trailer is if something fails and causes a accident or hurts somebody then it is on their insurance not on yours.
 
ntsqd said:
The flip side is that unless you take the time to educate yourself on how to properly build a trailer you end up building something that looks stout enough for the job, and STILL be a danger to others on the road. Northern Tool sells two good books on how to build a trailer. I highly recommend that anyone thinking of building their own trailer buy and read both of them.

I was planning on getting some kind of guideline, like the northern tools books.


The following statement is IMHO, do not take offense:
I choose the idea of the 14BFF axle because the 14BFF is the mother of fullsize truck axles. Why would the axle magically self destruct because it is being hauled. If the tube is of great stature and the bearings have oil, I don't understand why it can't roll. Design is a key element if not the most important element in any structure, but it consists of steel and welder that can be purchased by any consumer, not some Un-ubtainium government moon metal fused together by vacuum welds.

I am stilling looking for a >16' used car hauler, in the mean time, plan B is in effect.
 
I was told not to buy a car hauler with mobile home axles. So I deduced that building one with mobile home axles is a no no.
 

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