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CEL comes on, engine bogging * FIXED * update first post.

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yesterday, I went out Muddin' now today when I drive my truck, its bogging badly. how do i check the CEL, to figure out whats wrong?


87 k5, 350tbi.700r4.208




Update**

I took the fuel pump back. and my warranty expired.. so I Picked up a Precision fuel pump. It's noisey. but my truck runs perfect now.. seems like it has more power than before...

so it was the fuelpump the whole time.
 
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With the KOEO you want to jumper the A and B terminals of the ALDL connector (should be the top right two terminals). This will allow the CEL to flash any codes. You should always get a code 12 which means the system is working.
 
With the KOEO you want to jumper the A and B terminals of the ALDL connector (should be the top right two terminals). This will allow the CEL to flash any codes. You should always get a code 12 which means the system is working.


okay. well I dont really know how to read it, so I uploaded a video. could someone possibly tell me what it means?



so..

im pretty sure i figured out the code reading part..

after the "code 12" its a code 44.

which would be ..

44 O2 sensor showed < 0.250 volt for over 20 seconds while operating closed loop - mixture is running lean; possible clogged fuel filter, fuel tank empty or sloshing, injectors dirty, fuel pump going bad, or bad sensor.

I changed my filter. I just put $50 in gas in. new fuel pump.

so... how do i clean the injectors?
spray some carb cleaner? or put the "injector cleaner" in the tank
 
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Should really check fuel pressure at this point. Or clear codes and try again.

Here's a link to codes, How to and .pdf for diagnostics.
http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240425

Muddin ? Is your O2 sesnor covered in mud? Not good!


I replaced fuel filter again, with another new one, (i bought 2 the first time)
cleared codes, and drove around for a bit, still sluggish . and when I go WOT. the truck downshifts, and just stays at a high rpm. bogging .
on the way back home from the test drive, the CEL came on, then a minute later it went off.

I checked the codes again, Its still code 12, then 44.



and for the 02 sensor I did what the article says and it seems to be working as intended



**Field Service Mode - This feature allows the vehicle operator to check the oxygen sensor feedback system's condition and verify if the mixture is being controlled to its optimum value for efficient engine operation. To enter this mode, place a jumper between ALDL terminals A and B as in the troubleshooting section above. However, instead of just turning the key to the run position, go ahead and start the engine. At first, the check engine light will flash rapidly about twice a second. This indicates that the system is in open loop operation and that the oxygen sensor has not warmed to operating temperature. A few minutes later, the flashes will noticeably slow down to about one every two seconds or even slower. This indicates the system has entered closed loop operation. At this time, pay close attention to the amount of time the light remains off and the time the light stays on. When the light is on, the mixture is rich. When the light is off, the mixture is lean. As long as the times of on and off are close to being the same, the average mixture is at its optimum value. **
 
As many times, and as much money as people dump into fuel filters and injector cleaner, I don't recall hearing anyone that ever had success trying them.

You need to check fuel pressure as Mark said. Call up your local autozone, see if they have the fuel pressure tester kit, and borrow it from them. The local one to me couldn't tell me if it fit the early GM EFI, but from what I could tell of the picture, it does.

If it were me, I'd connect it at the fuel filter, not the TBI. I think the TBI location would be more of a hassle.
 
also, since I replaced this pump.. It's been noisy I can hear it in the truck. Whirring.

edit.

oh also. when i went muddin. there was quite a bit of water.. I know water got up in the engine bay, the Liner on the hood, fell off. so could water have gotten into the cap/rotor?
 
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Yes, possible it got wet, but I would expect a rich condition if it wasn't firing on all cylinders due to cap/rotor/wire/plug issues.

Did you replace the pump with a Delco? If you didn't...what was Mark saying about fuel pressure? ;)
 
Yes, possible it got wet, but I would expect a rich condition if it wasn't firing on all cylinders due to cap/rotor/wire/plug issues.

Did you replace the pump with a Delco? If you didn't...what was Mark saying about fuel pressure?

yes i replaced fuel pump with a delco EP386.

the truck idles fine, and smooth guess tomorrow ill take the pump back and see what happens with a new one.
 
No! Check Fuel Pressure!!!

Tester for these will hook up at fuel filter!

But... if you have a noisy Delco pump it may be bad, They are silent. If it were a Carter then I would say it's OK with a whine, that is normal on them, differant/better pump!

Did you whack the tank while Muddin? Do you have a skid plate? Even with a skid plate you can whack the tank hard enough to hurt a pump.

Water could be an issue, but as dyeager said, your symptoms do not sound like water damage, they sound like fuel issue. I have had my Blazer up to hood through crossings and nver had an issue.
 
No! Check Fuel Pressure!!!

Tester for these will hook up at fuel filter!

But... if you have a noisy Delco pump it may be bad, They are silent. If it were a Carter then I would say it's OK with a whine, that is normal on them, differant/better pump!

Did you whack the tank while Muddin? Do you have a skid plate? Even with a skid plate you can whack the tank hard enough to hurt a pump.

Water could be an issue, but as dyeager said, your symptoms do not sound like water damage, they sound like fuel issue. I have had my Blazer up to hood through crossings and nver had an issue.


I do have a skidplate on the tank, I didnt exactly Hit the tank but It was bouncing a bit through some whoops. and ruts. couple hardish hits.
 

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