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Craftsman fell in the toilet

yea most of the time all I use is craftsman. I am no professional just a wekeend warrior. i have broke 2 ratchets on a motor swap but i took it to sears and got a brand new one off the shelf. I like craftsman hand tools but I hate their power tools.
 
I have almost all older Craftsman tools and really like them, and i use mine hard. But, their power tools just suck!! No more for me, i'll probably try something like DeWalt this time.
 
I just received a Craftsman Catalog in the mail and they seem to have some really great stuff still. I was pretty impressed with this catalog. Not the same stuff you see in store at sears.
 
All the more specialized tools have been either discontinued, or are Chinese off brand stuff that breaks on the first use.

I am having better luck at the 'Cheap ass' tool places. Same stuff on a lot of it, but priced as Chinese crap instead of faking you into thinking an American worker made it....
 
I had no idea this was happening to Craftsman! I agree totally on the power tool department and the lawn mower/tractor thing. I work in the lawn equiptment repair buisness and lately Craftsman has been using some shoddy components. I have seen too many problems with the typical engine they use: Briggs & Stratton OHV Intek. They have way too many valve train problems and head problems. The best thing for anyone to buy as far as small engines go is one with an oil filter so it actually has an oil pump.
 
You don't even want to get me started on Crapsman ratches. :angry1: :angry1: :angry1: :angry1: :angry1: :angry1: :angry1:
 
search for craftsman and you will find a post I made about them sucking. Yep, quality has gone WAY down, but you know what, after pricing it, I bought over $3,000 worth of Craftsman tools recently. And I haven't broken a single thing at work yet. But I use air tools more than I do ratchets.

Even the wrenches are a bit on the low quality side nowadays. I have a few wrenches in my box that have been punched in the wrong place(at least I assume thats how they make the boxed end). If you look at the wrench, one side has more material than the other, its obvious its not right, but I haven't broken them yet.
 
diesel4me said:
I'm going to try Home Depot's "Husky" brand,and see how cheesy they are!--I have a friend who works there,says they will trade Craftsman for Husky..I think I'm going to see if he can actually do that,and swap them..
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Make sure you save the reciept on the Huskys. See my post on Husky tools.
http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174107

Brent
 
Crapsman ratcheting wrenches. They suck. They're great when they work. But man, 50% of the time the ratchet gears dont engage and the damn thing just free spins. Its infuriating when you're straining to reach a tight spot...
 
Craftsman is certainly not what they once were. When I was a young fellow (watch it you young whipper snappers, I'll take my cane to ya!) I ran and worked in a body shop where we spent most of our time rebuilding totals using mostly Craftsman tools. Some few things I bought Snap-On, usually when I could get used that had been traded in and/or rebuilt, but most of my box (and my box itself) were Craftsman. Not top of the line, but it got the job done and I rarely broke anything.

Today the quality is definitely lower. I’ve had wrenches get buggered, take them in for a new one, and the new wrench is “loose” right off the bat. Took it back along with some sample “good” bolts and verified the next was a proper fit, all the rest were at least reasonable, my typical bad luck, but I took home the best. The cheap ratchets are where they took the worst hit in quality. They are pretty much crap, only marginally better than HF cheapies. But the up graded pro line (or whatever they call it now) is much better. But I wouldn’t get the fine tooth ratchets since they pretty quickly get to where they may or may not engage, though they rarely strip.

Still, most of my regular use ratchets ARE Craftsman and they generally work rather well for the most part. Don’t even t think about trying to work with them professionally any more, but for hobby and shade-tree wrenching, they are still about the best “value” going.
 
I have one 1/2" drive ratchet that I have had for 30 years. It still works like a champ. I have another that is less than 5 years old that slips, the lever is loose, and moves to the middle if you just bump it. Craftsman went downhill when Blackhawk quit making their tools. I also have an ancient Blackhawk 1/2" ratchet that looks like it belongs in a scrap metal pile. It works better than either of my Craftsman ratchets!
I still buy Craftsman cause you just can't beat their warranty. I have never broken one of their sockets, even using a 3/8 drive on a 1/2 adaptor with a 3 ' cheater bar. I really would like to know who makes their ratchets now. We need to ALL show up at the factory and educate those jerks.
 

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